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@patris They're going to revert to 1983 not 1953. All the early feminist and affirmative action shit will remain. There just won't be an active purge of competent White men and those with skills will make a good living. They will also kill MeToo, which was always solely about purging men not protecting women.
Loss of dollar hegemony will reduce force projection. If you stabilize dollar creation it will settle down regardless at a new price level.
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@judgedread @Escoffier 100% there are powerful people having this conversation right now. But can they? Seems like a powerful dollar was one of the foundation stones of the high times. I think they have lost control of the dollar. They can put the leash back on the negro and the tranny, but can they disempower the HR director, regulator, and family court Judge? Can they get the Saudis back on the reservation?
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@Escoffier I'm sure if jews were removed all the things jews work to destroy, warp and suppress would improve. However as Putin is discovering it's hard to unring bells. Russia is often touted as a great Christian hope. Church attendance was a wretched 7% a few years ago.
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@judgedread Not saying it will be easy but I see trends I find encouraging.
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@Escoffier Due to a major jew miscalculation in 2014 some American Christians are finally waking up to the jewish problem.
So that's progress.
But exogenous variables are bitch. If the jews keep doubling down on shit sandwiches it will turbo charge the search for some countermeasure, and Christianity has considerable clout if you go back 400 years or so.
That's why I predict Team B victory and an attempt to switch back to the carrot and deprecate the stick, at least in terms of the economy.
How will you get them to church when the (not Zuckerberg) immersive volume arrives and the stop and frisk nigger clampdown and AI economic boom has brought back that eighties vibe?
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@judgedread @epictittus But that's not really the way to look at it. Christianity originally sprouted from the soil of the roman empire which was pretty darn sodomesque itself. The problem with Christianity today is it was hijacked via dispensationalism and progressivism and stood on its head. And like most problems today remove the parasite remove the problem.
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@judgedread The percentage of Christians in general is declining, mostly because groups like Lutherans and Catholics hemorrhaging numbers insanely. I think overal numbers will probably continue to drop until the collapse. Afterward is a toss up though, the media market based culture wont survive the death of the dollar.
That being said, out of Christian denominations:
Births - Anabaptist (amish/mennonite) is highest birth rate. If you count them as Christians, LDS leads by total birth number.
Conversions - Pentecostal has highest conversion totals. But Orthostrooooooonk has highest annual conversion rates, as high as 15% post covid!
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@epictittus The cope since the Moral Majority days has been that the liberal denominations are collapsing but this will be made up for by conversions to more hardcore faith. It hasn't worked out. For a while it was a wash, and the percentages were stable. The chart I posted showing relatively stable belief among Boomers and GenX is why. The pig in the python of Boomer consensus propped up legacy churches... then they started dying. The rapid collapse in Christianity among young people is a preference cascade. High growth in very small US denominations is nothing new, and won't make a difference.
Obviously if God as understood by Christians is real he can change that at any time... but that's not the way to bet. The US looks more like Sodom every day.
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My conclusions about the chances of an orthodox (in the general sense not Eastern Orthodox) Christian revival in the US are based on history and understanding the memetic engine that produced said history.
Theology in the US became a market based when the colonies / states disestablished their churches. This didn't happen all at once, but the idea was baked into the US Constitution assuring its eventual victory, barring amendment.
Market based theologies are like dime novels or, for a more modern example, hit television shows. They give the people what they want. What do men born in sin want...
You see where I am going with this.