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1. bronze (bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:23:50 JST bronze
   Me still rocking an AMD FX-8350
   Oh and hot take: Bulldozer wasn't that bad :blobfoxcrylaugh:
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:23:48 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • d
     @deprecated_ii @bronze I had one but sold it off because it was struggling with a lot and I killed a board ocing it.
     
     I kinda miss it
   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:23:49 JST d

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     @bronze my linux desktop PC is a phenom II quad core from 2010. works fine, had to replace the motherboard at one point is all
     
     I do wish I'd upgraded to an FX-8350 when they were still available new and cheap
   • Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:18 JST Ademan

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur

     My rationale was that higher value targets would probably be most interested in disabling IME. But that assumes glowies really care about “high value targets” and they’re not just casting the widest net possible to have leverage on the general public.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:18 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @ademan @bronze @EdBoatConnoisseur a lot of schools and the like I saw do it, along with businesses. Hence why there's a me disabled sticker inside those dells.
   • Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:19 JST Ademan

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur

     I know puri.sm “disabled” IME on intel https://puri.sm/learn/intel-me/ but that’s another case of “yeah, like I fucking trust that”. It is interesting though, I just can’t imagine Intel isn’t having an arms race with these guys to work around the disablement (or maybe it’s too niche for them to care?).

   • bronze (bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:19 JST bronze

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @ademan @EdBoatConnoisseur I feel like its the latter. Its too niche of an option and very few people are going to go out of their way to buy purism or take apart their whole laptop to flash the bios chip.
     Funny thing is, Dell used to have an option for buying laptops with intel ME disabled. That was up on their website by accident, and once they figured out people were buying those laptops they removed the option.
     https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/eidhq4/how_to_buy_a_dell_laptop_with_the_intel_me/
     >it is intended to be offered as a custom option for a select number of customers who specifically require this configuration
     The "customers" in this case most likely being whole glownigger agencies that don't want spyware on their laptops. They use side channels like the ones above to indicate to vendors they don't want the "approved for goyim" version. So with their biggest customers taken care of, and the majority of everyone else running with a backdoor wide open, they really couldn't give a shit about the like 0.01% of people disabling it on their own.
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   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:20 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Ademan

     @bronze @ademan Wasn’t there a company building laptops with coreboot and ryzen chipsets?

   • Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:21 JST Ademan

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     bulldozer is the newest x86 microarch without the AMD PSP so it’s good in that way, too. I need to get my old rig from california, it’s only a FX-6XXX but I’ll put it to good use.

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   • bronze (bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 08:25:21 JST bronze

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     • Ademan
     @ademan >bulldozer is the newest x86 microarch without the AMD PSP
     thats why i keep it around, its nice knowing the spyware chip isn't baked into the CPU die. One less problem to worry about.
     >b-but the PSP can be disabled in the BIOS!
     sure, yeah... but I trust a BIOS option about as much as I trust a jew to be honest
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   • Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 20-Feb-2023 11:06:47 JST Wrongthink

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur

     @EdBoatConnoisseur @bronze @ademan There is also repurposed hardware from Technoethical. It is possible to more completely disable IME on earlier hardware.

     OT: Thread scheduling for bulldozer family architectures have been better under linux than on windows. So the problem was exacerbated by that.