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1. eisai (eisai@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 15:44:58 JST eisai

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   @Zerglingman @Morghur @PurpCat @theorytoe Speaking of playing pretend… This really depends on how well the character is written. I remember playing the first Bloodrayne. While the main girl was super attractive, and her lines were showing the character, the routine gameplay dulled the effect of “playing a dhampire killer girl”. With Bloodrayne 2 the immersion was even less.
   
   Lara from Tomb Raider Legend was a good example of when a game is a kind of glass cube with hazardous materials, and the character is rubber gloves built-in in that cube. It runs, it shoots, it pulls levers – I wish it could run faster, though – but it’s not a character to play.
   
   Well, maybe it’s not right to expect character done elaborately from a shooter or a puzzle game, – there are RPG for that. But I can’t name a single player RPG, that was that immersive. If only an MMORPG. I’m going to do a 180° turn and remember Hitman: Blood Money. While the Agent 47’s story is brief and happens somewhere on the background (until the last mission, that is short), throughout the game you acquire this certain way of thinking, through which the character crawls under your skin. It’s your character now. I can remember The Hammer of Thursagan mission in Wesnoth, where you lead dwarfs, there it was immersive through the reinterpretation of the game actions as the part of the story: one half of the story you get from the dialogues, and another half – from what you play through. Wesnoth has it done well: the gameplay isn’t detached far from the story and at certain points of completing a map the dialogues return, which really helps the immersion. Playing as Bill in Left4Dead had that too: when you’re limping on low health and play as a stern veteran Grandpa, like a real stubborn yet caring old man, and who is voiced good, this really aligns. I specifically went to folder with games to remember more, but all of them were immersive in the instrumental way, rather than through the character’s skin. Now that I think of it, this is surprising to myself, that I can’t name a female character (except my MMO one), that I would find immersive, even though if I would play a new game, I’d rather create a female character first. Guess it’s still about the air.
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