@Paultron@MK2boogaloo@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired@flux_the_cat lol such cope for one, the language you're writing in is descended from Rome, the catholic church is the most decadent and least valuable thing from Rome, with it having only accidentally progressed humanity. Plato specifically was used by christians, but his school was not the only Greek philosophy, let alone the only academic pursuit.