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@Victor_Emmanuel @WashedOutGundamPilot >Women are turned off (at least in the early stages) by men who are interested in them.
Being coy/hard to get is the natural reaction of a lot of women. What's incredibly gay about our current culture is they teach "no means no" and dudes who are normal and just trying to make their way through life hear that and believe it. They should've been teaching people not to rape or be in rape-promoting situations and encouraging a culture of men that beat the shit out of dudes who try to rape or drug girls or get them overly drunk to take advantage of them. Instead, they disempowered the only ones who cared— those who actually listened. No doesn't always mean no, and any man who's married can tell you that.

>This is obviously paradoxical because a man talking to or asking out a woman is by definition interested in them. Here is how I square the circle: You are supposed to want to talk/have a date and she just happens to be there.
It's like fishing. The line has to be there but if the fish recognizes it as bait, they won't bite. Instead it just needs to be appealing to them and present. When we had more social activities in our culture, being around other people was a normal thing and an opportunity to have your metaphorical fishing line out there.

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