Notices by Failure_Personified (failurepersonified@clubcyberia.co), page 11
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Apparently you can run sm64 pretty well on RISC-V, even though the VisionFive2 is restricted to OpenGL ES, though the RPI build flag (if you are compiling on the VisionFive2 using the original sm64pc codebase) is all you need to get it to allow you to run it.
Although I must say it took a long time to figure out why it wasn't working.
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@coolboymew
One thing is certain, no matter if the old man dies, "archival" copies will still exist 🏴☠️
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@coolboymew
don't dox my fan bruv
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@coolboymew
It concerns me that all the entrepreneurs i know are still working service/construction.
Don't drink the koolaid, stay in school and hone a specialized skillset you know will be profitable, once that happens you'll be fine.
Drop-shipping chink shit will only get you so far.
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@dcc
Sometimes when the uptime is too good, I get all soft on the servers and let them sleep for a few minutes. Makes me feel like a kind operator.
Do machines dream? Probably not, however I'm sure after shutdown there's something floating around in there flowing through logic gates... only to fizzle out in what man might believe is but a moment, though if you cycled that often in a second, that may not seem too short.
:kirbysleep:
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@p
> One of my big objections, though, was that no one was making them and it remained to be seen if it'd work out, my suspicion was that it was a wank, overspecified pre-silicon that was driven by wishful thinking instead of the practical realities.
A fair objection; up until about a few months ago that was my thoughts almost exactly.
> I've been using the thing for a while and it's delightful, it's solid, the compiler doesn't get weird on me, no heatsink or fan and it never gets too hot to touch.
That's comforting, I've read a lot about some peeps experiences and it's hard to really figure if it's just a "them problem" or something deeper.
Though I know you are quite good about this sort of thing which gives me hope :blobcateyes:
> he wants to revive some of Cray's ideas and do vector instructions instead of multiple-dispatch and I'm kinda excited about that.
As the current meta seems to be, "spend as many cycles as humanly possible" I think that's a solid idea. Main line software is only going to get more bloated, but I think that heavy optimizations/extensions should make it quite nice for the rest of us who like running light. The vector processing is such a cool idea, but I understand why, especially back during it's time; it was a bit too forward thinking.
From my understanding, most developers, and their associated companies, were more interested in procedural, and graphics and other things weren't so advanced to the point where something like that was high-priority way back in the day. Although I think we are slowly seeing a shift. Even in systems where GPUs are the crowned king of performance (when it comes to hashing, shit like that) they are often bottlenecked by pipelined instructions from the CPU, increasing latency across the board as the CPU is still the "brain", whereas GPU's, memory controllers, etc. are all just limbs.
Even packaging the information to send to a GPU is paramount to it's success. One of the big reasons ASICs are so big in mining, from my understanding, is a closer relationship between what's being requested, and an optimized path for those instructions (which are limited to one use case)
> I mean, see attached for some grounding (hardware should be boring), but something cool might be happening. Cautiously optimistic.
He's right; however I can't help but get a little hopeful :02_laugh:
> Oh, yeah, everything's easy to work with, etc. It's beautiful.
:blobcatheart:
> Oh, yeah, it was a little rough. (I don't know how early "early" is. Acorn desktops in the 90s? iPAQ? GBA?) ARM is still a little rough. It's actually easier to work with RISC-V already. And part of that is, like, they pushed some stuff into the ISA that might be in the ABI otherwise, like which registers are caller-save versus callee-save, and that alone simplifies a lot.
Oh lol, I done screwed up there. I meant a bit early for modern applications (outside of phones), with a decent amount of interest in this latest "wave" of RISC adoption, I just didn't communicate that bit. Yeah it's had a long and hard road. I think ARM took a major hit just because the goals of most companies weren't optimized battery life and super light little clients. To do "real work" you usually would need a fat client running on your system which, to do things "optimally" you were restricted to the partial truth of CISC >>> RISC. The goals of [current year] has departed in many ways from those in the 90s. It also doesn't help that processor speeds were menial so doing more in one instruction, 20 cycles or so, was a better proposition than 3-4 instructions of varying cycle counts per.
But that's just how one dude sees it.
Wrong place, wrong time. Also to normies it was considered an emergent technology that doesn't have practical use. Though thanks to ARM being more widely adopted in the past few years, and support from major vendors, I hope that people will be more open to RISC-V once it matures a bit more.
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@p
Note: I'm aware i'm speaking very generally about the 90s.
There was also a lot of interest in hobbyist spaces for parallel computing as well as other neat things like RISC. However I'm only talking about mainstream goals and the bigger manufacturers/publishers like MS, IBM, shit like that.
Also fuck Apple for leaving PowerPC to die, when they moved to Intel in later years that was pretty fucked up, they went backwards.
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We really do need an option to mute foreign languages I swear TWKN would be more usable
(Yes I’m complaining, no I don’t expect anyone to build it, yes I don’t care enough to make a PR, yes I’m a faggot, please just let me die)
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@crunklord420 @PunishedD
I see what you’re saying. I partially agree as I do believe that he believes what he says.
Though he never challenges himself, or accepts criticism whatsoever.
The most important thing I have learned over the last decade is simply. There are two types of people, those who lie and are seemingly incapable of truth and those who tell the truth.
If you speak “truth” when it is convenient you will forever speak half truths; when you speak truth to power despite your survival instincts, you are able to speak the whole truth.
I personally think Styx knows more than he speaks, and that’s why I can’t stand him, he will always skirt the line of acceptability and in the process, debase himself.
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@lain
Save money and don’t trust easily
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@PunishedD @crunklord420 Styx is such a fuckin grifter, can’t listen to that faggot anymore
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@p
> Have RISC-V core for DevTerm, very pleased. It is slow but it feels nice. Absurdly high battery life, too.
Oh sick (maybe I misread the other post), it's going to be fairly sluggish in the early days, just since it's only recently becoming even affordable to buy any chipset with it. What I'm really curious about is since it's open, and there's no licensing involved. The possibilities with specialized instruction sets for different things (kind of like MMX or SSE) could get really whacky and fun.
> It's absurd. It's easier to get shit working on RISC-V than on ARM.
I'm thankful to hear that; i was hesitant but that's kind of what I've been reading on the forums and shit. It seems like the software support for the arch has experienced unprecedented growth. I'm a little weary since I remember getting into ARM when it was fairly new and getting no support for most shit for over like 2 years. (this was VERY early on)
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@dcc i thought about it; however @Sprate told me that Crunk was on here and I just have to follow my guy you feel me?
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@dcc
Hahaha I can't seem to get an FSE account ever to register successfully (something about my config); however I'm more than happy to direct people their way :02_laugh:
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@p
I noticed you are still using that DevTerm (very nice piece of kit) and you mentioned that you are looking into Risc-V.
I'm waiting for my VisionFive2 to come (it's taking it's sweet time) and I really do think that in the next two years that shit is going to pop off, at least in foreign markets.
Right now I'm just trying to figure how the support for Risc-V is looking, and see if I can learn more about the architecture.
Also good to see you fam! :blob_wave:
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It's been a minute since I've found myself on such a lovely UI
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