@SlicerDicer@anemone@feld@barrett@sun about 10 people have gone vegan just from talking to me, 1 even messaged me years later thanking them for pushing them to do the right thing
@sun@anemone@feld@SlicerDicer@barrett This is a naturalisation of capitalism and colonial conceptions of nature, lookup degrowth and deep green veganarchist ideas. A better world is possible, and it doesnt require you to eat the flesh of other thinking feeling beings
@sun@anemone@feld@SlicerDicer@barrett What does that even mean, this is the ultimate goalpost shifting, a vegan can not hurt a fly and youll be like "youre metaphysically hurting them though"
@SlicerDicer@anemone@feld@barrett@sun This is whataboutism, this will continue to happen whether or not you fish. A vegan world would therefore have less suffering, we can research into reducing wild harm like this too if we had the collective will
@sun@feld@barrett 2 wrongs don't make a right, I cannot reason with an octopus but I hope I can reason with you, and how does that justify impaling the mouths of random fish who may not have hurt anyone anyway
@SlicerDicer@anemone@feld@barrett@sun The actions of non-human animals in a survival situation have no bearing on human decision making when it comes to whether we should kill cows pigs chickens fish turkeys sheep ducks geese etc
@feld@anemone@SlicerDicer@barrett@sun This is a whataboutism argument. the situation with kangaroo or deer is ethically interesting but has nothing to do with you impaling fish's mouths for fun cant you just eat plants