The Invidious front pages are horrendous. Nothing but channels that I always ignored just from thumbnails and titles, and sometimes channel name. I actually started collecting soyfaces from the thumbnails, to mock them, to spin a negative into a positive and maintain my sanity.
Sounds like a joke, right? But it's true. I don't know if I can post multiple images because I haven't done it yet, but here are soy12, soy15, soy17, soy22, and DT2 and dtsoy4. I have like, 30 of them. https://social.076.moe/url/52256
That's not built-in functionality, though, it's a package. That was just stuff that Emacs comes with by default, within that little difference in size between the binaries. But yeah, if you install evil-mode, then you also have Vim inside of Emacs. Meanwhile, having Emacs inside of Vim would be practically impossible, because you would have to rewrite Vim, and then it wouldn't be Vim anymore, it would just be Vimacs Lisp with an editor built on top of it.
Point is, they are really different things. Saying that Emacs is bloated because it does too many things is like saying that Unix is bloated because it does too many things and therefore doesn't follow the Unix philosophy. Or that C doesn't follow it because you can write programs that do different things in it.
Silly argument that nobody would ever make in those cases, because there is nothing wrong with a general-use programming language, and there is nothing wrong with a general-use environment to run programs in. But people do it to Emacs, because they see it as a text editor, in part because of silly comparisons between things that are not really all that comparable, and the idea that having features is somehow inherently a bad thing. And that last part goes back to GNU, because people criticize GNU programs for being bloated... but are they? Not if those features are useful to you, especially if the performance is still fine, and there are no other negatives. Sometimes they are bloated, but I wouldn't say that in general.
Wow! There was a point to all this! It eventually went full circle back to the original topic! It may even look like I planned it even though I didn't!
Yes, I thought about Icecat, but it's not really all that fair to blame that on them, it's still just Firefox. They just forked it and made it meet the FSF's standards, so none of the bloat comes from them.
The GCC vs tcc thing is because tcc is made to be as simple as it can be, while GCC is made to be an highly optimizing compiler. The more you optimize, the slower it is to compile, by necessity. Of course, there is a balance there, and optimizations are less necessary the less bloated the software is. I think Terry's approach for HolyC was actually more in line with tcc's, and look at his OS. It boots in an instant even though it compiles like, half of it, right as it boots, and it doesn't need all of GCC's optimizations because the software is simple, so in a compiled language, it will be fast pretty much no matter what.
Also, if I called Emacs a development environment, it was a mistake, I meant to say computing environment. Anyway, Emacs is really in just the right position to make you ask "what even is an operating system anyway?", just like Lisp in general does, and also Forth. Languages like that are so powerful, and you can run them on bare metal, and if you do... are they an operating system now? PilOS ( https://picolisp.com/wiki/?PilOS ) is basically just PicoLisp running on bare metal, and it has OS in the name. What if you put that in a ROM chip, would it still be an OS? If a computer has a BASIC ROM chip, and BASIC is the interface between you and the hardware, is that an OS?
He should be censored. Because he's against freedom of speech, his should be taken away. His standards, not mine. He should be given what he's asking for and treated how he treats others. Natural law.
I don't know, I think it's pretty neat ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=w3NfOeecMkI ), and I could use it over Linux. And it's like, version 0.999999, so it can't be that difficult to get it to work on a single piece of hardware... right? And Stallman is basically irrelevant. He doesn't really do anything other than writing retarded things.
Also, I wouldn't say that everything GNU in general is all that bloated, not compared to pretty much everything else, other than even more niche systems. They would never make a Firefox/Chrome-tier abomination themselves, that's for sure. Though they do like their features, I guess (and I do as well, I'm the "maximum amount of features for the smallest possible cost" type, not a mememalist).
I think the biggest negatives would be their core utils, I guess, because anything used in scripts may be run a trillion times in a loop, and you really want maximum performance there, but also, shell sucks, so whatever. Also, bash is slow, but you can just use another shell for scripting.
Lost the rest of this comment because it failed to be sent and I only noticed when it was too late, and fcitx can't save long comments. Anyway, glibc is probably the worst consequence of not maximizing simplicity, because it all the security issues that some people say it causes, and because many programs depend on it and can't be built with musl, I hear.
In some cases, accusations of bloat confuse me. People accuse Screen of being bloated compared to tmux. The binary is half of the size of tmux, though, at least on my system. And it does things that tmux doesn't, like displaying sixel images in a compatible terminal with img2sixel -P. Also, selecting text without a bunch of white space, so that its copy mode can actually be useful.
People also accuse Emacs of that, compared to Vim, but the Emacs binary is 6.3 MB and Vim is 4.9 MB (both with GUI support, to be more fair). Not a huge difference (though there are .el files as well, that are now compiled, and maybe some Vimscript stuff, that will never be compiled ever), and Emacs is a lot more than just an editor, it's a whole programming environment and programming language, with a daemon, terminal emulator, file manager, web browser, ridiculously powerful markup language, shell, IRC client, package manager and much much much more, and all of those have image support, and it can also run as a daemon. All of that involves either interacting with or editing text in some way or another. Not to speak of everything it can do with additional packages. 1.4 MB more and it can do a lot more than Vim does or even could do, because it's not really even a sane comparison, they are just too different.
But yeah, it's all a value judgement. You want programs to run smoothly, but other than that, it's all about what features you want or don't want, and also how the program will be used (again, something that will run repeatedly in a loop is different from an interactive program). That's why I'm not into the mememalism thing. I want as many available features as possible for the smallest possible cost.
This can be achieved through brilliant designs that are simple, but that get a lot of flexibility out of that simplicity, so it can be extended much more easily and to a much greater extent than overcomplicated corporate bloatware, so that a lot can be built on top of it and people can use it as a foundation to built their own environment on. Some people, though, if they went just a bit further on the mememalism, would be saying "Unix shells are bloat and do too many things, just use Windows' cmd.exe instead".
Don't know what my point was, I write too much. And I haven't been sleeping enough so my head almost hurts. I am currently nerfed and cannot use my full power. https://social.076.moe/url/50551
Hadn't seen that video, but I knew about Lockstep, and I knew about Event 201, and that the shots were also ready in advance, and that Fauci and others talked about "blowing the system up" with an emergency ( https://www.bitchute.com/video/XNRY9xEgkWgo/ , again, just stream it with mpv, everyone should have a key binding to stream from their clipboard and/or primary selection) in order to be able to ignore restrictions and regulations on what big pharma can do, and that he "predicted" that this would happen during the Trump presidency ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=puqaaeLnEww ). Discussions about viruses aren't even relevant, it's such a fucking obvious fraud, it was obviously intentional and planned regardless. If people really got sick with something new at all, they got sick because they were intentionally poisoned, maybe even before the shots, but definitely when they took them.
That was already enough, but that's even more proof stacked on top of it for the sheep to disappointingly ignore as they fall for the next one. And that's not to speak of all the shit that they have been talking about doing (in their books) for literally over a century, that has all been happening nonstop over the last few years. They are very blatant, just look at Klaus Schwab, he basically admits everything openly and nothing happens. And of course, all the evil shit that the Rockefellers have been involved in (pretty much everything).
'David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs: “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”'
Also, of course, this gem: https://odysee.com/@Anon:96/DavidRockefeller:e
That of course, did not get people to not trust the TV anymore, because they haven't seen it, because they're busy watching TV all day. Now their pocket TVs too.
I too would like if impossible things were possible. Making friends is easy, though, if you know a lot of things and aren't afraid of making enemies. Just say whatever is on your mind in a lot of places and whoever doesn't hate you by the end of it will probably be a friend candidate. It's just that simple. https://social.076.moe/url/50288
Also, the OpenBSD core utils have been ported (I think it was this that I saw when I found out about it: https://github.com/Duncaen/lobase ). Do they work? I have no idea.
Yeah, hardware massively complicates this. Though ARM is no better, because ARM computers are special snowflakes and are completely closed, and you pretty much get what you get and can't expand it at all, it's worse than x86. I hope RISC-V catches on and does better. Hell, I hope GNU makes the Hurd kernel work at least on it, if nothing else, because as soon as free hardware becomes available, there will be no reason for them to focus on anything else.
But it's a real shame that things ended up like this. It's another example of how everything in computing tends to go in the worst possible direction. Everything that becomes standard is almost inevitably the worst shit that happens to be available. We could have PowerPC desktops now, but nope, it lost to the x86 and got wiped out. Maybe we could have SPARC, but it was never used outside of servers and workstations.
By the way, both OpenSPARC and OpenPOWER have OpenFirmware (Check it out, it's very cool: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KvxxAeuhPp0 ), which is built into an implementation of Forth. You can run programs directly on the firmware, no other additional OS required. Why don't we have that? Hell, why aren't OSs just built on top of powerful languages like that in the first place, why all these layers of complexity? From what I have heard, a window manager has been written for it, and even a Forth-based Emacs clone and some games. It's just ridiculous that this is not possible on every single computer. To me it seems like the things that are allowed to become popular on the consumer market are deliberately picked specifically to restrict the user, and to prevent individuals from being able to do too much themselves.
You can also see the amazing things that were done with MIPS CPUs in 90s and early 2000s consoles. But nope, x86. And the only alternatives are shitty locked-down ARM single-board computers that can't be expanded and that run like, two OSs, if you're lucky. And with no standardization, so each OS has to support each device individually, on top of the OSs themselves being clunky and barely even designed.
Also, don't forget Mezzano ( https://github.com/froggey/Mezzanohttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wd_-h5kRQLo ). It's an OS written entirely in Common Lisp. Still only runs on VMs as far as I know, but it's very impressive that it exists in this environment of very complicated computers and also nothing but Unix clones everywhere, and also an architecture that wasn't exactly built for that type of language (probably quite the opposite). I assume not made by many people either, and if that's the case, they must be insanely productive. https://social.076.moe/url/50258
The only problem will be when those guys inevitably bite the big bazooka, kick the bucket, whatever amusing euphemism for dying you prefer. Or when they themselves go in a bad direction. Like, imagine if Theo becomes a tranny and goes completely insane. Pretty sure I joked about that somewhere before.
Then you have the entire project run 100% by someone that you dislike, instead of arguably just a loud minority plus people that just don't want drama and don't want to get involved with other people, and a bunch of soyboys that are just afraid of saying anything.
At this point, I have accepted that I just generally don't like tech people (which shouldn't be surprising, I don't like most people, and all tech people are people). Almost all of them are wimpy conformists that don't know anything other than a very specific skill, and they think that being able to do that one thing makes them smart when it really does not.
There are few people that I know a significant amount about and that I still respect. It's a small group. One is definitely Terry Davis, he deserves all of it and was the hero that humanity needed but didn't deserve, and another example of someone of a prophet or wise man archetype, that was killed by his own civilization, that then collapsed shortly afterwards. Other than him, maybe people that designed old systems and languages, but I don't actually know much about them.
Chuck Moore also comes to mind, the creator of Forth. I read some of his writings and watched some interviews and I like him too. Really, he took simplicity in computing to an extreme that I don't think anyone else ever did, and I heard tales (from things written by old people) of how absurdly skilled he was, how he would take other people's programs and make them massively smaller and simpler in a very small amount of time.
Also Gary Kildall is another likely candidate, if the accounts of what he was like are correct. Some other designers as well, I'm sure, but once something is done by a team, you really don't know who did what. Generally one guy takes credit for managing the project, but it wasn't something that a single person could ever take credit for, it was a combination of ideas from different people.
Of course, this is now impossible, because every system has to be connected to enormous, endless layers of complexity. It's very unfortunate, I would like to live in a world where everything is simple and it's normal for people to make their own OSs, but we're about as far from that as we could possibly be.
In a perfect world, people would realize that injecting graphene in their veins and covering their faces and not breathing is bad for their health. But this is not a perfect world.
People involved in software projects are such faggots... is my natural reaction, but at this point I'm not even sure that they are actually worse than the average. Like, you can't have a group of people of any significant size and not have it be like that or worse, at this point.
When that inevitably becomes the only option, I'll probably just go to the stores with a mask and a hammer and take what I want, and break whatever physical barrier happens to be in the way. Not like there will be a more reasonable choice at that point.
" I disagree with that part."
All the trillionaires and billionaires already have their bunkers ready, possibly with ways of preserving technology and slaves. This has been known for over 100 years, after all, so if it does happen, they presumably know and have prepared, and their bunkers were built (and are being built) with that in mind. Meanwhile, most of the rest will die, maybe including the people that are somewhat prepared. Particularly if the poles really shift, that will finish off a lot of even the people that manage to survive the floods and all the killing and looting. And even then, most of the people that do survive will have been sent back to the stone age, if not even farther back. So, the most evil people will have the advantage and take over the world once again, unless they fuck up and die anyway.
Oh, and this is not the worst possible outcome. The worst one would be nothing happens and their plans continue, on schedule, with no interruptions and delays.
If people had brains, then would never go to war. If you're willing to risk your life, risk it trying to kill the people trying to force you to go to war, not random people that have done nothing against you. Unfortunately, they are just homo, no sapiens. Bunch of goddamn homos.