@chudwave @GabeLakmann @Royper Jeans don’t hold up long, IIRC even the thickest selvedge denim only covers the first 1.5 seconds of slide on rough asphalt. Add in the fact that your legs (depending on bike) could well be pinned underneath it, and it makes sense why so many riders have ACL replacements.
Also don’t trust dickies or any of that shit, the seams don’t have the required burst strength. IDK if they have the vids open source but there used to be some tests where you see the weighted get-off things and the jeans burst like a balloon. It’s wild.
Overall 3do can be okay, IMO it’s a little scant in some jackets, and it really doesn’t hold up w/ a lot of winter riding, I’ve had too many of the pads crack after 5 seasons, but overall it does alright.