@Insomnolant I understand, I was coming at you from the perspective of those christians who still defended them until now, even though they would never admit the death panels weird connections.

I find it very interesting how tolerant many Christians are with taking abuse. These are not the Christians who persevere through persecution. No these are the limp wristed Christians who just allow the faith to be attacked.
There is no difference between the Christian TRS fan and the Christian liberal arts college student who sits silently while their professor goes on tirades mocking God and the Church.
These TRS/NJP Christians want to think they would stand up to defend their people from a tyrannical government, bitch please you stayed silent while a two fat men with early 2000 reddit atheist takes mock God while their faggot cyclist friend laughed like a retard in the back.
They expect themselves to be martyrs of the faith one day, I think they will fall away under even mild pressure, because God gave them a Beavis and Butthead to cut their teeth on and they failed.