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1. Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:14:25 JST Adrian Cochrane

   UX is on my mind, since somehow it has become an argument I'm in.

   Put a developer in charge of UX & you'll probably get something ugly.
   Put a visual designer in charge of UX & you'll probably get something overly flashy.
   Put the customer in charge of UX & you'd you won't get anything innovative. Unless they're in the other camps they don't know what's possible.
   Put a businessman or marketter in charge & users will not get anything done.

   We play our vital roles, but UX is it's own specialty.

   • Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:18:18 JST Adrian Cochrane

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan Either that, or a screenful of customization toggles putting the UX design off onto the user!

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:18:19 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @alcinnz Put a libre dev in charge of UX and you'll get dog food :D
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:24:17 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @alcinnz "here, recipe book!"
   • Csepp 🌢 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Sunday, 19-Feb-2023 02:57:33 JST Csepp 🌢

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     @alcinnz In theory I like the approach used by some of the folks at Xerox Parc where (if I remember correctly) they got teachers to design the system so it would be easy to learn.
     I definitely think software teams need more people whose skillset overlaps with a teacher's.

   • Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Feb-2023 02:59:59 JST Adrian Cochrane

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     • Csepp 🌢

     @csepp Is this suggesting that teachers are the role which mostly matches to a UX designer? So before the field existed in software...

     Makes sense! They're both about explaining things & engaging people, just using different mediums.

   • Csepp 🌢 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Sunday, 19-Feb-2023 03:05:57 JST Csepp 🌢

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     @alcinnz I'm not sure just any teacher would be good at UX, but for designing a language that is easy to learn it's certainly useful if you have practical experience with how people learn.