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1. Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:11:35 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
   Freetards make me laugh
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   • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:12:08 JST Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow

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     @verita84 it's a legit concern, though. Ubuntu went too far. Good thing Linux Mint comes in Debian too
   • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:13:30 JST Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow

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     @verita84 it appears that their ability to update apps has been paywalled.
   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:13:31 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow
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     What is the Ubuntu user loosing?
   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:16:06 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow
     @masstransitkrow
     
     That's not how it works. Everyone gets free updates still.
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   • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:16:40 JST Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow

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     @verita84 I'm hearing the term esm-apps get thrown around. Sounds like a two tier update system.
   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:18:30 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow
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     ESM Apps is the designation used by Canonical for the packages in the Universe repository that gets 10 years of security updates with an Ubuntu Pro subscription.
     
     Ubuntu Pro access is a paid service for companies, but individual users can get a free token for up to 5 machines (including either physical or virtual machines) by logging in to the Ubuntu Pro Dashboard.
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   • Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 12:19:04 JST Eric Shields | 🅜assTransitKrow

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     @verita84 thanks for clarifying. In that case, old programs like that shouldn't be used by ordinary users.