@dubbub @TrevorGoodchild @SrbijaStronk Idk if minority/majority is a good measurement, since it depends on arbitrary borders. Eg even if every county but one in usa is minority white, there will still be that one county that kind of functions.

I think the measurement of systemic collapse is when they can no longer exert control over enough people. If the system orders a subordinate to do a thing, the subordinate refuses, and the system can no longer apply punishment.... thats the definition of collapse beginning. Collapse ends when the system controls nothing.