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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 08:11:40 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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   I'm almost coming around on this whole thing in recent years, even though I'm not quite sold on the idea, I feel like SOMEONE has to stand up for the good-hearted people who are too kind to look out for themselves.

   Special needs kids (I'm talking about REAL intensive care, like 5 yo minds or completely immobilized) are a HUGE, EXPENSIVE, LABOR-INTENSIVE PROJECT THAT NEVER ENDS. It's easy to coo at the thought of a poor baby being killed off, but nobody ever has that empathy for a 63 year old woman who has to roll out of bed at 3:13 AM because her "miracle baby", now 38 years old, just smashed diarrhea into the carpet of 3 rooms in the house - and nobody in the family or community ever taps in to give her a break from that duty.

   That kind of thing is noticeable, too. I keep seeing old, decrepit people who can't even live alone having to cohabitate with tards and cripples to kind of help each other through life, a constant string of injuries, messes, and work that nobody wants to do. They're on 24/7 home-care duty their whole life without end, because the rest of the family wants nothing to do with the hassle.

   Which is why I'm not so strident about making sure all our gimpy, unworkable people are brought into the world. Maybe if they're born into a family of 4+ kids, so you know there's a shot it will be cared for by its own, but most of the time it's a lifelong curse set upon a family at the behest of one or two sentimentally-blinded people.
   
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 08:14:58 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 It's horrible to say that euthanization is freeing to the living, so nobody ever stands up for those kind, dutiful, good-hearted people that ACTUALLY clean up and care for the cripples/"special" kids, etc:

     **They won't tell you the truth, they don't even want to THINK it to themselves: Caring for the special needs people is completely thankless, and tiresome, and they hate it, and they're racked with guilt every day because they sit there, aching back and arthritic knuckles, scrapping away the 5th floor-shit of the week thinking to themselves

     "I can't wait until God takes him from us, I can't keep doing this....I'm such a horrible person"**

     Everything about it is awful, but I really have lost my gumption as I watch the "empathetic" people IRL shirk their duty to the mess they want to create in the first place. I'd listen to their point of view if they can tell me the last time they wiped their grandfather's ass and helped him take a shower....but instead they probably think "aw, well, my aunt does that stuff, she doesn't need help"

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:54:05 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @d0c40r0 Yeah sorry to use you as the anchor for the post, just something that I've been seeing (and living) for a while. It's a little irritatin how nobody wants to actually put in the work, but they'll tut-tut when you wish your infirm grandfather would pass on already.

     Worse is that I notice it happening everywhere, and nobody ever talks about how lucky they are to have just ONE dutiful person bearing 98% of the work

   • Doc (d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:54:06 JST Doc

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     Understand the point, not really looking for a debate or sure if I fully agree or fully disagree but I do think it’s not entirely retarded hh
   • John Rando (john_rando@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:55:01 JST John Rando

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @d0c40r0 When I was in tech school after basic, I was volun-told to help out with a special olympics event that the base was hosting. We were assigned an old guy with limited mental faculties who was put up in my dorm room. They at least gave us a cot for him. He was there for the weekend and the last day he threw up all over the bathroom floor. At least it was just the tile bathroom floor. OMG it was so foul, my roommate held up a box fan to blow fresh air into the room while I did the best I could to clean up the mess.

     He asked if he could stay with us. I guess his normal minders weren't that nice to him. I told him sorry but he couldn't stay with us. I still remember his name.

     Helping the nice people who care for special needs people sounds like a good idea. My church does something similar but for foster parents. Basically they have people go to foster parents homes and help them out with whatever they need. I would think that caretakers for downs kids and other special needs people need help even more.

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   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:55:06 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     @john_rando @d0c40r0 @WashedOutGundamPilot >I guess his normal minders weren't that nice to him.
     To be fair, they may have started out that nice to him but been worn down to a less friendly state over time.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:56:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @birdulon @john_rando @d0c40r0 which is why we can't be breeding retards unless there's enough family to sack up and take care of them.

     We have a lot of people in ours and even so everyone shirks their duty to take care of our problem kids. It's irritating but you won't abuse them when it's someone you love.

     Blood is blood

   • VaxxSabbath (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:56:12 JST VaxxSabbath

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @d0c40r0 the wisdom of institutionalization starts to become manifest when you think of things this way

     with enough of the special-needs people in one spot, caring for them becomes a job with shifts that you can actually get a break from; the usual issue is that the system starts to tend towards inhumanity rapidly and abuses start to pile up, which having it under the care of a religious order tends to stave off

     for families that do have enough people in them in one spot (this is the usual problem) to provide constant adult supervision to Uncle Bob's retarded ass, they don't necessarily need it (they manage to create shifts on their own), but that's not the usual case these days, is it?

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 11:58:07 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @VaxxSabbath @d0c40r0 In my sight, nobody does shifts, they basically have one sucker in the family be the go-to for everything, they get maybe a day a week where they have enough excuse to go out and tap someone else in.

     Which is why I'm more friendly to the idea of cutting these poor creatures off from the start: Those good-hearted folk shoulder this burden alone, forever, and nobody ever sticks up for them. I'm just about ready to be the evil mean one and fight that battle to ensure those treasured people are saved for better duties

   • NotImportant (notimportant@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 12:16:52 JST NotImportant

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @d0c40r0 My sister was disabled. She couldn't walk, talk, or feed herself. She was a massive undertaking for my single mother who also had to deal with 2 boys. At several points she worked 3 jobs to make ends meet. I love my sister, and it was heartbreaking to us all when she passed, we visit her grave several regularly, and soon will be for her birthday.
     There is a time when abortion is truly necessary in these cases. It's not nice to think about, but it's true.
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   • SuperLutheran (Festive half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 12:57:57 JST SuperLutheran (Festive half)

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @d0c40r0 Having helped out invalids/disabled before, I can tell you right now that managing compassion fatigue is a skill that prevents people from developing thoughts like that. Death isn't the answer, forcing the parties who have the kid/care for him or her to undergo training is.