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1. Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle: (rek2@hispagatos.space)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:34 JST Got Root :hispagatos: # :idle:

   Stop Electron, stop using a browser as if it was an Operating System!!! Go #terminal #cli #TUI use your OS, not the browser for everything! And be liter, more ethical, your computer will love you! Use #Gemini #gopher #usenet #matrix #fediverse on TUI apps #vim #neovim as your text/IDE #mpv for videos and more... !!!

   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:30 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @threat @rek2 your workflow doesn't, but I'm willing to bet money that your Signal app for both phones and desktops is actually the same code. Element, for one, does exactly that, it's the same code base for browser, desktops (Electron), and mobile, with just slightly tweaked UI settings.

     As for Wine, it's not just them. Say what you will about Macrohard, but they do a stellar job of supporting backwards compatibility. L'Eunuchs gnutards can only dream of something like that. It's much easier to launch Windows versions of even not that old games (say, early 2010s) with Wine/Proton than their native L'Eunuchs ports.

   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:31 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @threat @rek2 depends on your target platforms. A lot of devs target Android and iOS too, and Qt has weak support for those. Especially for iOS.

     I'd take Qt + Kirigami too, KDE people did a magnificent job of splitting their libraries into small reusable components that do not pull the entirety of Plasma desktop. Still, I understand the rationale behind using Electron even though I hate it.

     It's actually stupidly funny that the most portable after Electron GUI framework out there is...

     WAIT FOR IT!!!!

     Winapi + MFC! Because Wine exists and works virtually everywhere, and this makes older Windows apps portable as fuck. Even if you consider L'Eunuchs world alone, you have much higher chances of successfully launching a winapi binary than anything in GTK.

   • 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋 (threat@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:31 JST 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋

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     > A lot of devs target Android and iOS too, and Qt has weak support for those.
     
     good point, my personal workflow doesn't include mobile devices or related platform targets. i'd rather buy another 15.6" portable monitor and pretend i'm cyberpunk with all the terminals
     
     > Winapi + MFC!
     
     i wasn't surprised in the least. and wine has stood the test of time, regardless of how unpleasant it may seem to some.
   • 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋 (threat@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:32 JST 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 i'd take qt and it's worm farm over electron though. i remember using signal on the desktop. it felt like a vm with an android phone in it. good times.
   • 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋 (threat@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:33 JST 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋

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     @rek2 i love this. i have no idea why so many things use electron besides the claim "it's easier". with this sort of setup (and add other tui/cli utils) you can have 2gb of ram and still be peak kompute!
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:42:33 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @threat @rek2 because Electron is the only somewhat portable GUI out there. Except maybe Qt, but Qt comes with it's own barrel of worms (ahem C++ ahem..)

   • 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋 (threat@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:43:10 JST 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋

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     > I'm willing to bet money that your Signal app for both phones and desktops is actually the same code. Element, for one, does exactly that, it's the same code base for browser, desktops (Electron), and mobile, with just slightly tweaked UI settings.
     
     you're correct, but in the end i stopped using signal, session, and element.
     
     > As for Wine, it's not just them. Say what you will about Macrohard, but they do a stellar job of supporting backwards compatibility. L'Eunuchs gnutards can only dream of something like that. It's much easier to launch Windows versions of even not that old games (say, early 2010s) with Wine/Proton than their native L'Eunuchs ports.
     
     the only stance i take on anything is what works best for me. i'm a judgement free kompute namespace
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   • 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋 (threat@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:46:26 JST 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝@𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛.𝚌𝚕𝚞𝚋

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     > kinda same. Which is why I use Winamp to listen to music on L'Eunuchs. Funny, but it works much better via Wine than any native L'Eunuchs music player.
     
     oh fuck. i come from your era, maybe before. why have not done this? winamp was swoon-worthy. i'll be back later with a report!
     
     > I'm dying of irony.
     
     no. you're simply komputing how you like. i admire this. everyone should do this.
     
     > I also heard of people using Windows versions of Firefox in Wine for some seemingly valid reasons I can't remember.
     
     i've read about this too. i can't recall the context. i want to say there was maybe some form of drm or media player layer that was more efficient with a winapi backend. but i'm likely wrong. i often am
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:46:26 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @threat @rek2 @icon_of_computational_sin >Winamp
     We have audacious
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 07:46:27 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @threat @rek2 kinda same. Which is why I use Winamp to listen to music on L'Eunuchs. Funny, but it works much better via Wine than any native L'Eunuchs music player. I'm dying of irony.

     I also heard of people using Windows versions of Firefox in Wine for some seemingly valid reasons I can't remember.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:29:57 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat How?
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:29:58 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @dcc @rek2 @threat audacious sucks

   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:47:59 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     1. substandard EQ that somehow manages to be broken in my system. No, I don't want to debug it and submit bug reports, I just wanna listen to music. Thanks you.
     2. somehow Audacious manages to munch on more resources than the latest Winamp. Winamp works like it's 2007, rarely going about 100 megs of RAM. Audacious easily gulps triple or more of that. Not that I care, I have 128G of that, but still it's nice to use more thoughtfully written software.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:47:59 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat >broken in my system
     Pipewire?
     2. no audacious does not use that much ram lol
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:56:54 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     1. does it matter? EQ should work inside the player.
     2. Yeah, it does
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:56:54 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat 1Yes because pipe garbo causes fake problems
     2. If you are using the gtk or qt version of the ui it will use more
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:59:52 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat 1. Using a shity audio sytem is your fault
     2. I didn't say no ui
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 08:59:53 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     1. Winamp works with Pipewire somehow. So, it's an Audacious problem.
     2. Of course. If I wanted a player without UI, I'd use cmus. Again, Winamp doesn't have this issue, provides nice UI and doesn't gulp memory.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 09:01:46 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat alsa, okay wire, sndio.
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 09:01:47 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @dcc @rek2 @threat hahahaha

     again, pipewire works for everything but audacious. So, it's audacious problem. Also, it's not like L'Eunuchs has any other audio system.

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat "I put shit on my hotdog and its tastes bad, must be the hotdog" :alex_lol:
     Alsa plus apluse works the best, pipeshit is made to break it self.
   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 09:04:31 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @dcc @rek2 @threat pure alsa is garbage. The rest isn't any better, most software only supports pipewire these days anyway.

     I am not going to completely reconfigure every part of my system that deals with sound just because one garbage of a player shits itself profusely. Winamp works just fine for me.

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat Im just quoting what you said :cunny:
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     @dcc @rek2 @threat i wouldn't know what a hot dog with shit tastes like, but I'm glad you've had this experience for all of us.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 09:09:41 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @icon_of_computational_sin @rek2 @threat What ever you say fren, i have a nap to take.
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   • THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD (icon_of_computational_sin@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 09:09:42 JST THE MARTYR OF BUTLERIAN JIHAD

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     @dcc @rek2 @threat no, you are just being petty about some dude on the internet not liking your favourite software