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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:29:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   aww heck yeah nice ZERO buttons way better than the few buttons we have now nice smart smart smart good work, honeywell team thank you

   Actually I’ll take this over the other twitter ads, but only barely

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:30:09 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     aww cool you mean like that BMW wheel thing? Where you “just draw shapes with your finger and the system knows what you’re writing!”

     That doesn’t work so hot. This shit’s gonna get some poor bastard when he ends up blasting into somewhere he shouldn’t because the system is too busy freezing up interpreting handwriting

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:36:20 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     aw bitchin. I was gonna say, could you hook it up to my phone? that would be awesome. Perfect, exactly what I want: Apple carplay in the plane, too

   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:36:54 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     I can't wait for the first fatal accident caused by spilling coffee on the touchscreen, trying to wipe it up, switching the plane's GUI into swahili and not being able to switch it back.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:37:38 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

     @Eiregoat I hate it all. Everyone says “well cirrus market survey said that nobody wanted a glass panel GA plane!” so now every bad idea is greeted with “oh if smart people push back on it then it’s GOTTA be a good seller!”

     The only good news is that nobody likes honeywell decks

   • Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 06:39:07 JST Christmas Coon

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot Every engineering choice has to be made keeping in mind that this tech will be used by sheboons. They have to attempt to make it easy enough for the negress even if it becomes more unwieldy in general, as long as the downsides affect everyone equally.
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   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:05:40 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     I'm not a pilot, but I'm also suspicious of glass cockpits a bit. I was always taught to navigate assuming electronics could and would fail at any moment. Even had it happen once: I was sailing form southampton to arklow and the GPS died. Fortunately we had everything worked out on paper so it was no big deal.
     
     I get you can't do that in an aircraft but I'd still like actual analog instruments just in case.
   • Rayfield (rayfield@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:05:41 JST Rayfield

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot I used to work for a vessel assist type company where we would run out in a small overpowered speedboat to help people who got into shitty situations. A surprising number of calls were due to 'the gps stopped working! huh, charts? I thought those were for decoration, I don't know how to read this!"
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:08:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

     @Eiregoat We usually have a primary and secondary display, with one backup system so we have SOME redundancy. Add in our ipads and you have a functional 3rd. Outside of the airlines and well-equipped bizjets we often carry our own little gadgets like laser gyros, ADSB-in, GPS, etc. just to make sure we’re as accurate as possible even on our backup (esp. since you never know how your plane will be outfitted)

     Overall the glass panels have less issue than the steam gauges, those tend to be sloppier from installation error, calibration, slow response time, vacuum pump issues, precession, etc. Lots more to go wrong, and you always have to babysit them.

   • PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:08:18 JST PunishedD

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot "Hello, we're from the FAA, we're trying to figure out why your plane crashed." "FUCKING AUTO-CORRECT".
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:08:37 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :nv: Eddie Fucksaw :nv:

     @chainsaw_appreciator Probably? I think that’s “Honey Bucket” though.

     Honeywell does a lot

   • :nv: Eddie Fucksaw :nv: (chainsaw_appreciator@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:08:38 JST :nv: Eddie Fucksaw :nv:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot >Honeywell
     The guys who make those construction site latrines? That honeywell?
   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:10:15 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Rayfield
     I heard a story from a local about a guy who wanted to sail around the world. He had a few people on board before he set off to show off the boat, one of them asked about his route, he pulled out his "map" to show them. It was a single school atlas type thing of the entire globe. He had no detailed charts of any of the areas he planned to sail though. This was before e-plotters too.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:11:09 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     • Rayfield

     @Eiregoat @Rayfield So many stories from that era end with “He went sailing on Feb 2, 1967 and was never seen again” along the coast. Heck, I just saw a vid of a dude repairing a watch, it came from the guy’s daughter when the sheriff’s peeled it off his corpse when it washed ashore

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:18:36 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

     @Eiregoat It’s the little things, and you add in the fact that you get weight savings, too. Stuff like the heading indicator has to be reset every 15 minutes if you’re doing a lot of turns and stuff, which people tend to leave out, so you’ll end up seeing it goes from 2º, then 5º, then 15º, etc. off from your actual magnetic course as time goes on. The vertical speed indicator has a pretty good lag too, since it’s just pressure tubes measuring the differentials.

     If you’re ever bored the FAA does all the textbooks, they’re free and actually handy if you’re interested in the history/gear that goes into some of the older stuff. Civil aviation is kinda stuck 50 years behind.

     http://www.tc.faa.gov/its/worldpac/standards/8083-25/PHAK%20-%20Chapter%2007.pdf

   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:18:37 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     Oh interesting. I assumed the glass cockpit thing was just for user friendliness and packing more instruments in. I didn't realise the old ones were unreliable.
   • Rayfield (rayfield@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:18:44 JST Rayfield

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot pov: your keel has met a rock
     bad end
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   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 07:18:44 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Rayfield
     If you fail the exam that hard then the examiner has more to hide than you do, so you'll probably get a pass.
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   • JohnnyAppleseed (johnnyappleseed@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:19:01 JST JohnnyAppleseed

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     • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:
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     @skylar @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot >people can’t read a paper map.
     Is this one of those millennial/zoomer problems that I’m too intelligent/paranoid about technology to understand?
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:19:01 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • JohnnyAppleseed
     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

     @johnnyappleseed @skylar @Eiregoat It’s more of a “kids raised in captivity have no mental modeling to connect abstractions of reality to their real world counterparts” thing. Guys are rarer in having issues, probably because of video games, but I find women REALLY struggle with overlaying a map with the terrain in their head. It’s like they’re two unbridgeable, unrelated concepts

   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:19:02 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot
     >zoomers and young millennials probably can't figure out how to use a road atlas
   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:19:48 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:
     Man... that's actually a good point. I haven't even seen a road atlas in years. If google maps and whatever iphones have went down at the same time, would there just be chaos?
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:19:48 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

     @Eiregoat @skylar Maybe. Something I notice sometimes is that some people just fly the line into the airport and only really see it when it’s RIGHT there, like finding the interstate exit when it’s an eight of a mile in front of you

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:29:00 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:
     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @skylar @Eiregoat
   • FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄 (lordmordred@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 08:34:25 JST FestiveNova :confederateflag: :nv:🎄

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     • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:
     • JohnnyAppleseed
     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @johnnyappleseed @skylar @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot I can read a paper map use one all the time in Daggerfall got the other maps of Tamriel too
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   • dew_the_dew :verified: (dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 10:35:47 JST dew_the_dew :verified:

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     plot twist, the copilot is a native swahili speaker
     
     then the plan crashes anyway
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   • InquisitorVendee (inquisitorvendee@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 10:41:34 JST InquisitorVendee

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     The fact that the IMO now allows ships to sail without paper charts is an absolute joke.
     
     ECDIS is utter wank. I made a decent living training people how to use them, and I still hate it.
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   • :btrfly: anime graf mays 🛰️🪐 (graf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 05:50:56 JST :btrfly: anime graf mays 🛰️🪐

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot you will never be a real plane, you have no yoke..

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 05:53:13 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • :btrfly: anime graf mays 🛰️🪐

     @graf Everyone’s gone to the HOTAS crap now because…..well I know they love ripping off the military but I’m actually pretty sure it’s because too many pilots are fat as shit and their belly gets in the way of a floor-mounted joystick or yoke. Now we get silly things like this:

     https://youtu.be/sLUvoYIi1vo?t=50

   • Granwalder (granwalder@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 05:53:21 JST Granwalder

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot cockpit looking like a free to play mobile game
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   • Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 05:53:38 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot Worst thing they did was introduce touch screen to domestic kitchen appliances. What happened to knobs
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 05:57:15 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Chineseman 🟥 #nobot

     @IAMAL_PHARIUS Well there IS a point to the idea. If you have a screen, why NOT make it as big as possible? Then you can see more stuff. For these, the bigger screens show more of the map and allow you to distinguish terrain in 3d view. With the added real estate, you can put the engine gauges on the secondary screen, too.

     to me, the peak so far is still the first few generations of the garmin panel. Kept the cake knobs and the work flow from their well-designed older stuff, while keeping plenty of screen space for flight use. Best of both worlds. Now, they’ve pared down the knobs in favor of touchscreens, which is not so much an issue when you’re flying a glassy smooth, heavy transport plane, but definitely is when you’re less than 12,000 lbs getting bounced around like a hamster ball rolling down the stairs