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wow you tank is so bad it can get destroyed by my top of line ammo that is 30 years newer than its design lol
>his tank just got knocked out because the battery based APU was sitting outside of the turret and some dude fire a .50 on it
RT: https://poa.st/objects/8086d200-37c3-4d87-813e-a46ed850f5d4
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@Gerfand I wonder why people think that there's such thing as an indestructible equipment on the battlefield.
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@MK2boogaloo Oh extremely simple
>SealClub Iraq with American Tanks
>Iraq Tanks were designed by Soviets
>Conclusion: American Tanks are better than Soviet Tanks
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@Gerfand real, probably because the US has never been in a fight with a country as strong as them since WW2.
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@MK2boogaloo WW2 was a war they fought, not gonna act its not, but it was definelly not a war that was equal.
First Soviet Union was fighting the bulk of the German Army, The Germans were blockaded since 1939 because of England and US only engaged properly in 1942 after a lot of damage was done (in Europe proper only after 1943)
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@MK2boogaloo They fought China and were pushed back until where the border is today.
They were not winning there...
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@Gerfand yes, but what I mean by equal is in industrial and technological aspect. The Germans might be weaker by a lot in the west but they still proved to be challenging because of those aspects.
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@MK2boogaloo yes, that is correct, still I consider China kinda equal because tech they were not behind what US had in Korea, but they had more manpower vs US more mechanized formations.
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@Gerfand in Korea war? Not that much I think, I remember reading the US holding their position quite well under constant attack. Also didn't the US lose that war because it was unpopular at that time?
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@MK2boogaloo @Gerfand Well that was mostly do to the Germans being a veteran army bloodied by 6yrs of war while the American officer were very inept generally
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@Groomschild @Gerfand yes, I really want to see how the US facing an equal opponent like the Wehrmacht at their fullest strength. Would the superpower win?
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@Gerfand @MK2boogaloo The terrain and choke points of north Korea (mountains and a thin front) were a detriment to mechanized and air dorces
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@MK2boogaloo @Gerfand Probably a repeat of the German invasion of France. On paper the French had equal to better equipment to that of the German army.
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@Groomschild @MK2boogaloo yeah basically that on a tactical front, you get the side that advantages you.
The point I made is that US got beaten because China was equal enough in some areas to allow that... even if partially only
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@MK2boogaloo @Gerfand The Americans were deep into north Korea when the Chinese did a surprise attack. The US army got smash and pushed all the way back to where the DMZ is today. The war essentially ended because both sides realized they couldn't beat the other because if America advanced they would be in mountainous terrain that favored the foot soldiers of the Chinese while if China advanced they would be in plains where tanks are best in and closer to the American airbases in Japan
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@MK2boogaloo @Gerfand public support for the UN mission wasn't a huge factor and the war wasn't terribly unpopular, as wars go. There was fatigue but the public wasn't protesting it or anything, that was more Viet Nam
In Korea the red Chinese got involved and it boiled down to a choice of escalation to full on war with the Chinese or settlement. They decided it was not worth it to nuke China over Korea
As a side note tho the Chinese mulched their entire army that was most likely formed with the idea of taking Taiwan so that still exists as a bonus
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