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1. Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 02:45:41 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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   Router side of things: Cisco has IOS, Juniper is using a FreeBSD base, the rest is mostly consumer-level stuff or people using their own hardware (and using whatever software).
   
   Handhelds / tablets: Nintendo has their own (Horizon), Microsoft has their own with the Surface, Apple has iOS.
   
   Server side is a massive amount of Linux but it's a space where you're not going to move BSD out nor the bunch of proprietary OS used on them.
   And server-side is one where Linux can be entirely replaced and because of binary-compatibility (linux doesn't breaks userspace) a transition to no linux anymore could happen pretty fast.
   • Post (post@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 02:45:42 JST Post

     @lanodan

     That one I can agree on, but it’s not a monopoly problem, nor is it a problem with torvalds, because he’s very much not alone.

     Torvalds has to take balanced decisions just like Google because Linux and Blink can just being forked if the need justify the huge effort. There is no difference here, you just have a bias, at this point don’t tell me you believe the Linux Foundation is a no-profit org.

     And I know that if it weren’t for proprietary games, I would use FreeBSD or NetBSD everywhere.

     I was not talking about desktop computing, when I said Linux kernel is everywhere of course I meant servers, embedded devices, Internet and cloud infrastructures and so on.

     In theory the right way is having the interface between kernels and the rest standardized and implemented by different kernels like Linux. So basically what we have with Web standards.

     The fact that very important interfaces are not standardized like the Web doesn’t mean it is not possible. If there was one implemented only by Linux, maybe some people would recognize that there is an even worse problem than current Blink quasi-monopoly.