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1. Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 23:16:04 JST Electronic Frontier Foundation

   Cars can collect and share an abundance of data with insurance companies, advertisers, and others. It can seem impossible to figure out what your car is sharing, but it is possible with a little effort (and a lot of patience). Here’s how. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/how-figure-out-what-your-car-knows-about-you-and-opt-out-sharing-when-you-can

   • The Green Knight (greenknight23@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 23:34:54 JST The Green Knight

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     @eff which is why I'll never buy another car with a "media system".

     give me the lowest priced lowest tiered 4 cylindered pos that runs reliably.

   • Rachel Rawlings (linuxandyarn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 23:40:37 JST Rachel Rawlings

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     @eff

     "Start by seeing what your car is equipped to collect using Privacy4Cars’ Vehicle Privacy Report. Once you enter your car’s VIN, the site provides a rough idea of what sorts of data your car collects."

     What the actual fsck are you recommending here? Sharing a VIN with some random website is a privacy issue. What's wrong with make, model, and year? I certainly don't want to provide specific PII for a "rough idea."

   • gnaddrig (gnaddrig@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Mar-2024 23:50:19 JST gnaddrig

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     @eff Actually, all cars collect all data they can including everythinc on your phone if you use your car's app, and of course pass everything on to the manufactuers (in a more or less anonymised form) who will of course monetarize the data every which way they can. All manufacturers, period.

   • CuriousMatter (curiousmatter@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Mar-2024 05:27:40 JST CuriousMatter

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     @eff What I'm curious about is how this information is communicated. Is it via 4G/LTE data network? And what is the consequence if it can't connect to that network? Like, if I go out of coverage, what stops working? It would be terrible if the antenna became disconnected (if it is external), damaged, or accidentally shielded. As long as I only lost crap I never wanted in the first place, though, I suspect I would decline to repair such damage.