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1. Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:08:37 JST Meemoo
   a very interesting video that covers a wide range of studies on the subject albeit a little outdated considering the current state of the internet thanks to our AI overlords
   
   https://invidious.varishangout.net/watch?v=BEIZHlfjAT8
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   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:11:31 JST Meemoo

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     the technopoly bit that states optimization, aka updates, has to happen for the sake of "progress" regardless of purpose is something I've been noticing for a very long time now
     
     I hate when companies needlessly update and redesign software just for the sake of it.
     
     it's why I hate updates, and in fact, rarely update my stuff. shit just works as is. updating usually results in features getting removed or the thing breaking. it's why I despise updatefags by extension who insist that you have to ALWAYS keep your software up-to-date because of "security"
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:32:35 JST Kyonko802

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   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:40:37 JST Meemoo

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     @Spooke I could see some sense in your argument if those security updates didn't always come bundled with issues, annoying bloat, and/or pointless redesigns.
     
     Windows 10 is the same as windows 7 except for the useless bloat and spyware that got bundled in the package.
     
     Hell, I stopped updating my Husky once I found a stable release because each update kept breaking shit. The maintainers have been doing nothing but fixing then reintroducing bugs in an endless cycle.
     
     And don't get me started on social media sites like YouTube or discord continuously redesigning their UI and making it worse and worse for the sake of "modernization" and "progress"
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   • SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:40:38 JST SpookerZ

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     @Meemoo i think it really just depends on the software. If its something that will be connected to the internet it's probably going to be a good idea to keep it updated lest you become part of some botnet.
     
     :clownpiece_glowie: when you think of all those IoT cameras and whatnot that are connected to the internet still running firmware from 2005 being used to ddos websites/services.
     
     Otherwise I think it's fine to not update software if it works it works provided it's not connecting to the internets.
   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:42:26 JST Kyonko802

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     @Meemoo one thing I appreciate with linux is that you actually see what it's doing when you update.
     
     There is no nebulous fucking corpo shit like "Getting everything ready for you :)"
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   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:45:47 JST Meemoo

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     @Kyonko802 I get extremely fucking FURIOUS when UIs get redesigned and all complaints get waved off with "you'll get used to it :)" or "you just hate change" when all it did was fucking REDUCE info and control you have over something when previous iterations worked just fine
     
     I want to fucking boil technopologists alive :angery:
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   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:48:50 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     @Meemoo @Kyonko802 Every UI will be flat and touch optimized with all advanced features buried under 5 submenu's and you will like it.
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:48:57 JST Kyonko802

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     @Meemoo the fact that you have to fucking dig for the registry or the real settings menu like some fucking gremlin pisses me off so much.
     
     It won't surprise me if/when windows 12 doesn't let you access them at all.
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   • LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 04:49:05 JST LoliHat

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     @Meemoo @Kyonko802
     
     If UIs weren't constantly being redesigned, then the UI redesigners wouldn't have their phony-balony jobs!
     
     The biggest problem with the tech industry is that they have vastly more money then sensibility.
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   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 05:01:02 JST Meemoo

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     @Tamamo @Kyonko802 I will never not be mad over sites displaying less or outright removing features post-UI redesign
     
     Remember when twitter used to offer archives of your account? It got removed after the web redesign and never re-added again until last year, a whole half a decade later. Also remember when there was a tab that displayed following activities like follows and favorites etc.? Removed for a decade, only living through the untouched tweetdeck until they decided to redesign it.
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   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:10:11 JST Meemoo

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     @Kyonko802 iirc win11 got rid of the fucking old control panel so you can't do anything resembling basic control over your own device on that PoS
     
     Every time I have to fix a laptop that has the shit installed the whole ordeal becomes an investigation to find where the pajeets put the setting instead (if it even still exists at all)
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:14:53 JST Kyonko802

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     @Meemoo when I got my new laptop it had win11 on it and I was only able to use iflt for about a week before I got pissed off and installed linux.
     
     My biggest pet peeve is the right click being fucked up. Fixable but it should not fucking need to be fixed.
   • Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:16:20 JST Meemoo

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     @Spooke the whole windows 7 situation just proved that you can't airgap old computers anymore.
     
     Steam will just not let you launch your games until you upgrade to a new goy-proved OS
     And Google is on a mission to eliminate any and all old OS from accessing the internet through their monopoly on browsers forcing web developers to abandon old standards which won't let you download old builds of software if you need to.
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   • SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:16:21 JST SpookerZ

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     @Meemoo I'm at the point where if I care about old software I have an airgapped computer that has all the software I want to run it on while being kept offline and if I want to add additional software it'll be by usb..
     
     The alternative is I'll eventually have to learn how to use proxmox so I can emulate the environment required to run the disc image of the above computer so that I can keep running ye olden software in perpetuity.
   • Patavius (patavius@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:24:00 JST Patavius

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     @Meemoo @Kyonko802
     The old control panel still exists but you have to dig deep in the start menu to find it. It's currently in Windows Tools, which opens up as a separate folder. It's annoying to get to whenever I have to change something. But it's not the same Control Panel as it was decades ago. Some of the controls has since moved onto Windows 11 Settings.
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   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:33:18 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     @Meemoo @Spooke very fucking annoying
     i often need an older version of a browser that'll play nice with older TLS protocols and cipher suites to connect to the management interfaces on older network equipment.........to update the fucking firmware
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   • sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 06:33:35 JST sapphire

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     @skylar @Meemoo @Spooke ie11 flat refusing to run on windows 10 was like the holocaust but for IT infra dudes and real
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:25:31 JST Kyonko802

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     @Meemoo @Spooke "what do you mean half the country's infrastructure is run by older software? We don't give a fuck update anyways"
     
     Silicon valley is full of people who don't know what a computer is. They're copy pasting code and editing it to suit their needs.
     
     A lot of websites and modern software are running on duct tape.
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   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:27:10 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     @Kyonko802 @Meemoo @Spooke too many pajeets

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   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 23:04:13 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     @Kyonko802 @Meemoo @Spooke I never understood why so much shit like signs and ATM's, POS, etc pointlessy runs on full blown windows instead of something like Nucleus.
     I used to have a feature phone that ran on Nucleus. That thing was rock solid. Never crashed on me once in the 5+ years that i used it.
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleus_RTOS
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