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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 14:44:12 JST Eugen Rochko

   I'm tired of hearing about AI, to be honest. I never cared for it. I don't respect people who use generative AI, and I despise companies that sell out people's data to train it. Yes, people will lose jobs to it, but the world will not be better for it. It's just that consequences are rarely immediately apparent in such complex systems.

   • gnaegi (gnaegi@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:01:52 JST gnaegi

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     @Gargron I partly agree with you , although I would not be as negative and I certainly see many area where AI is insanely magic and of great value for society.

     When it comes to GPT style AI however I think we have to ask ourselves why we should want to delegate creative and joyful work to computers. Expressing our thoughts and feelings using text, still and moving imagery ultimately defines who we are, where we come from and where we will go to. This is hard work for a reason.

   • Michael (tacticalgrace_@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:03:24 JST Michael

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     @Gargron I've lost count of how many people I've blocked, including people I used to follow, who don't understand just how bad everything to do with generative AI, and AI in general, actually is for the environment, artists rights, and data privacy. It's alarming how many just go "Haha look, funny picture" and just dismiss all the problems out of hand.

   • Vincent 🌻🇪🇺 (photovince@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:06:44 JST Vincent 🌻🇪🇺

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     @Gargron It’s bad search without the references needed to see how bad it is

   • hdante (hdante@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:15:48 JST hdante

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     @Gargron https://mastodon.social/@hdante/112005788719332437

   • Six Grandfathers Mountain (6g@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:52:28 JST Six Grandfathers Mountain

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     • Jeff Jarvis
     • Jason Howell

     @Gargron

     What is Blackbird.Ai❔

     It tracks misinformation and disinformation

     You can drop in a youtube link, an X link, a threads like, a blog link and it will check the veracity of it and give citations.

     https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/blackbirdai-launches-groundbreaking-context-checking-product-designed-to-help-guide-users-through-the-complexity-of-misinformation-and-disinformation-302061853.html

     #podcast
     This week @jasonhowell and @jeffjarvis talk with Dan Patterson of Blackbird.ai #AiInside
     https://aiinside.show/episode/contextualizing-noise-with-blackbirds-compass

   • Robodad (robodad@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 15:59:46 JST Robodad

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     @Gargron I suggest you browse “21 lessons for the 21st century” for well-researched analysis of how AI will be beneficial to ordinary consumers, in medical services, food, entertainment, government. The book came out six years ago so it’s not influenced by the current AI craze. The current AIs are crude toys, like the first of any human discovery. AI’s could generate movies for your preferred level of violence, romance and plots. I will pay for an AI to generate good Star Wars movies for me.

   • enoch_exe_inc (enoch_exe_inc@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 16:00:55 JST enoch_exe_inc

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     @Gargron So far, it’s been more or less a hobby of mine. The programmer and computer scientist in me is more fascinated by how it works internally and what I can make it do than in the output it generates; meanwhile, the creative spirit in me is more interested in what it synthesise out of the large amounts of digital art I’ve created, edited, composited, et cetera, and fed into it.

     Point is, these two things don’t have to exist in opposition.

   • Mark Darbyshire (markdarb@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 18:34:09 JST Mark Darbyshire

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     • Jon Sullivan

     And we talk about AI at the expense of all the other problems that need solving (or solutions that need promoting) in tech.

     @Gargron @joncounts

   • EyeQ62 (eyeq62@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 18:35:05 JST EyeQ62

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     @Gargron Oppression breeds rebellion

   • Kai Kubasta (zichy@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 19:01:32 JST Kai Kubasta

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     @Gargron

   • Healthcarer (healthcarer@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 20:13:44 JST Healthcarer

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     @Gargron Folks said similar about steam engines. With as much justification. They enriched some and killed others. And yet .....

   • pa27 (pa27@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 20:14:04 JST pa27

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     @Gargron It's not even AI, that's just a marketing misnomer. Interesting algorithms, but no intelligence.

   • VirginiaLady16 (virginialady16@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 21:14:55 JST VirginiaLady16

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     @Gargron Excellent post. I’m only familiar with it from the point of view of a writer-researcher. I wrote a separate thread about my experience (probably too long, multiple posts) which in my inexperienced way backs up what I read in your thread and (I hope) expands it a bit. https://mastodon.social/@VirginiaLady16/112014635702749149

   • Brick Duck (woltiv@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 21:38:51 JST Brick Duck

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     @Gargron On a personal level I really enjoy generative AI. On a societal level I think it needs to be handled carefully and regulated so people aren't put out of jobs, or so that there's a safety net if your job is affected.
     I've been trying out chatgpt and it's hilariously bad at certain tasks and gets a lot of details wrong in the domains that I know a lot about.
     It's nice to have black-and-white hot takes, but reality is gray.

   • Will Hook :clippy: (williamtm@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 21:58:23 JST Will Hook :clippy:

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     @Gargron I fully agree with one exception:

     I’ve found the generative fill in Photoshop quite useful when I’ve needed to expand a photo (for example), such as turning a landscape into a portrait image or adding a bit of extra room where I’d want to crop something - things like that. Thats the only “AI” stuff I’d actually miss.

     All of the rest of it is hell and can burn in a fire though. 🤣

   • NoCost (nocost@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 22:21:29 JST NoCost

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     @Gargron
     > Честно говоря, я устал слышать об ИИ.
     > Меня это никогда не интересовало.
     > Я не уважаю людей, использующих генеративный ИИ,
     > и презираю компании, которые продают данные людей для его обучения.
     > Да, люди потеряют работу из-за этого,
     > но мир от этого лучше не станет.
     > Просто в таких сложных системах последствия редко проявляются сразу.

     Доброго дня!
     Но есть же и позитивные моменты в развитии больших языковых моделей (ИИ). Вот например качество перевода ощутимо повысилось ;)

   • Bas Schouten (schouten_b@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 22:39:09 JST Bas Schouten

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     @Gargron Oofff. I hope you never used Google Translate because I wouldn't want you to lose your self-respect.

     What a dumb take.

   • Matt (matthubble@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 23:30:43 JST Matt

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     @Gargron I agree with all of this

   • Ren (rennie_le_smurf@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Feb-2024 23:38:25 JST Ren

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     @Gargron The bit I can't figure out, by the time the companies are peddling AI doing everything... What are we even going to be getting out of bed, or staying alive for?

   • Daniel Detlaf (humanservitor@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 00:05:03 JST Daniel Detlaf

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     @Gargron

     Maybe creating more effective spam and stealing digital art aren't all people are doing with AI.

     *Looks at users with #disabilities making use of generative AI to give themselves speech/hearing/vision capabilities they didn't have before.*

     Maybe we shouldn't draw profound character judgements from a person's use of software.

     #AI #accessibility

   • Ulrich_the_Elder (ulrich_the_elder@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 00:09:11 JST Ulrich_the_Elder

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     @Gargron I have set up filters to guard against AI and so far they appear to be working. Having a system of filters is the best thing about Mastodon.

   • JeanPDeliet (jeanpdeliet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 00:49:04 JST JeanPDeliet

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     @Gargron AI = let’s do wacky shit that’s cool to no purpose…. It will never be more useful than finding the prices of potatoes

   • ARCANON☑ (arcanon@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 00:50:33 JST ARCANON☑

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     @Gargron butlerian jihad when?

   • Alvin K Raji (aln_skywalker@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 01:00:17 JST Alvin K Raji

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     @Gargron
     Bruh to be honest I'm glad I found someone who shares the same opinion as me. The consequences of the "AI REVOLUTION" will be much more than what we anticipate...
     Or I'm just paranoid about them after watching a lot of movies.. But still I always firmly belive that an AI can never be able to make choices like us cause sometimes choosing emotions are better than logical stuff. Plus the fact that our data will be used to train such AI's is very concerning.

   • David (davidpetersonharvey@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 02:19:31 JST David

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     @Gargron agreed, though zi think the consequences are pretty easily apparent fit those who know how it works and how it is trained.

   • relogi (ifnotnow@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 03:01:51 JST relogi

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     @Gargron
     the fact that you call it AI means you bought the talking points meme without understanding the tech. There is nothing artificial or intelligent about a Large Language model... it is a tool to sort and transform information... it does nothing you do not tell it to, just because you dont understand the instruction set (they are mostly too damn big for granular understanding) doesnt mean there isnt one... please do despise the companies selling their snake oil

   • Hubertus Munz (hubertus_munz@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:36:37 JST Hubertus Munz

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     @Gargron How could generative AI help you make Mastodon a better platform?

   • O. Simard-Casanova in English (o_simardcasanova@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 18:41:44 JST O. Simard-Casanova in English

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     @Gargron The phrasing of your post is unacceptable.

     You have every right to dislike AI, I genuinely don’t care. I’m not a fan myself, and I also abhor companies that predates on creative people to train their models.

     But as the CEO of the Mastodon foundation, you have a responsibility to set the tone in a way that doesn’t legitimize abuse against people.

     Please edit your post. And please, get in touch with people familiar with executive communications.

     https://mastodon.social/@o_simardcasanova/112019748352869685

   • George Girton (martinicat@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 19:22:23 JST George Girton

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     @Gargron I use generative AI everyday on Mastodon to add descriptions to pictures so my posts can be appreciated by the blind. 🍸🐈 I nearly never need to correct the generated description and it is often more informative than what I would write🍸😺

   • emeeidson (emeeidson@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Mar-2024 09:01:42 JST emeeidson

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     @Gargron agreed

   • Lars Fosdal (larsfosdal@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 03:55:52 JST Lars Fosdal

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     @Gargron I use it for one thing. Pulling usable info out of obscene amounts of documentation.