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1. Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:32 JST Frondeur

   • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
   @Xenophon do we ever hell thread about apocrypha...Book of Watchers...in particular...
   • Will2Power (will2power@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:29 JST Will2Power

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     @Frondeur @Xenophon Isn't Jesus being conflated with Michael a Mormon thing?
   • Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:30 JST Frondeur

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     @Xenophon That one potentially legitimate one book within Enoch I recently learned is the book of watchers... I ran into some internet guy use it and Jude's apparent reference to it to argue against Jesus being Michael. The latter being a position I think I have seen some people on here (on here) make...maybe you???
   • Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:30 JST Frondeur

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     @Xenophon I guess that's kind of two hellthreads in one...is Jesus Michael and how should apocrypha be used to support arguments in general...
   • Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:31 JST Frondeur

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     @Xenophon Which parts?
   • Xenophon :demon_wojak: (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:31 JST Xenophon :demon_wojak:

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     so my understanding of Enoch is that it there was definitely a legitimate version, my opinion based off the fact a fully intact copy was found in the DSS scrolls but was sold to a private buyer and never copied or revealed to the world.
     
     But the version we have, is actually like 4-5 different books written at different times. Of them the first 1 seems to be the most/only possibly real? But that's also tough because it could just be theyve been corrupted over time and we can't really know.
   • Xenophon :demon_wojak: (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:31 JST Xenophon :demon_wojak:

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     But if you'd like to discuss some of it, I'm up for it.
   • Xenophon :demon_wojak: (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:32 JST Xenophon :demon_wojak:

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     Enoch? Not particularly, but I have talked about parts of it.
   • Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:56:48 JST Frondeur

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     • Xenophon :demon_wojak:
     • Will2Power
     @Will2Power @Xenophon bunch of that era of american churches do it I think...jehovas witnesses...7th day adventists...