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1. cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:12:35 JST cool_boy_mew
   How many more cameras do cellphones even need?
   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:13:58 JST l

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     @coolboymew macro, close, far and face
     thats 4
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   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:14:10 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     @coolboymew apparently the multiple cameras help for stereography and edge detection to like sharpen the image and stuff and it's smart people stuff that literally doesn't matter it's a fucking phone anything more than 640x480 is overkll
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   • kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:16:18 JST kaia

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     what can smartphone makers take away and replace with another camera? I think the charging port is next.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:16:37 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • kaia
     @kaia they're actually trying that I heard and it's an amazingly bad idea
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:19:00 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
     @chjara @coolboymew "smart" phones these days just feel like manufacturers are cobbling a bunch of gadgets together like if the "iPhone with cigarette lighter option" wasn't a meme.
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   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:19:09 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     • kaia
     @kaia @coolboymew port not porn i will kill myself
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   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:19:11 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     • kaia
     @kaia @coolboymew i mean arguably removing the charging port isn't that egregious because inductive charging is a thing, removes mechanical stress on the porn, and is really efficient
     
     well actually there's the issue that you can't connect the phone to a computer which means rooting is impossible, nevermind
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:22:29 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
     • kaia
     @kaia @chjara I wouldn't be surprised
     
     Also bluetooth file transfer sucks and etc. You can also do more than just charging and file transfer with the port. You can do a shitload of things on an Android device. For example, most computer peripheral works
   • kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:22:30 JST kaia

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     @chjara @coolboymew
     how about the efficiency of inductive charging. I suck at physics, but I heard it's wasteful?
   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:23:28 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     • kaia
     @kaia @coolboymew apparently 60-70% efficient, which sounds low but when you consider that a phone takes in like 20W at most it's nothing
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:26:24 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • kaia
     @chjara @kaia @coolboymew
     > well actually there's the issue that you can't connect the phone to a computer which means rooting is impossible, nevermind
     
     Vendors: Rooting is evil!
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:26:38 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
     • kaia
     @lanodan @kaia @chjara right, no adb without a port
   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:27:10 JST grillchen

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     • kaia
     @kaia @chjara @coolboymew it is, but it is also neglectable i think.
     
     found this source for germany:
     
     Bei 97,4 Millionen Handys in deutschen Haushalten entspricht das etwa 3,3 kWh/Jahr für jedes Mobiltelefon zuzüglich 31,9 kWh/Jahr pro Mobiltelefon für die Mobilfunkinfrastruktur.
     
     97,4 phones used in germany
     
     3.3 kwh per year for each phone
     
     31.9kwh per phone per year for phone infrastructure
     
     
     phones are very weak regarding the sending/receiving power and thats why the other sender/receiver has to be much much more powerfull
     
     charging with induction roughly need 50% more energy.
     
     so instead of 35.2kwh per phone per year total it is a wasteful, sinful, detestable
     36.85 kwh per phone per year
     
     think of the children!
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:28:02 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
     • kaia
     @lanodan @chjara @kaia actually I think you can do that wirelessly, I did it, but, yeah
   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:29:20 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • kaia
     @coolboymew @kaia @lanodan wireless is less reliable especially if you're gonna fuck with the firmware (which often has very limited connectivity options)
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:30:01 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • kaia
     @coolboymew @kaia @chjara IIRC you can do adb over the network.
     
     Meaning developers can throw the phone out the window.
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   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:32:05 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • kaia
     @chjara @kaia @coolboymew If you're gonna fuck with the firmware, USB isn't reliable enough either *points at their bricked tablet*
     You want hardware programmers for that kind of stuff.
     
     And as I did dev apps on SailfishOS through wifi+ssh, network is honestly reliable enough and not having a cable is pretty neat sometimes.
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   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:44:40 JST grillchen

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     • kaia
     @kaia @chjara @coolboymew also in general about electricity: effency numbers sound always bad. because every way of storage or change of the power (here electricity into a field and back to electricity) is extremely inefficient. everything up to 100% more consumption for an extra battery inbetween is normal.
     
     good example imo is solar. good panels are ~22% efficiency. i think there are some special ones with up to 25% or so.
     
     solar panels with 5-10% efficiency are still in demand and used because "they look nice" or they have some other nice attributes. like being flexible or so.
     
     if u wanna save energy with very low effort:
     
     turn off ur tv and pc if u dont use it
     turn stuff completely off automatically if u dont use it
     dont open the fridge/freezer unnecessarily (roughly 3s open door means it will work 5 min to offset the heat)
     use a water cooking device to cook water instead of a pot, even if u put it in a pot afterwards to cook food. it is more efficient and faster (unless u have an induction stove)
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:45:52 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • kaia
     @grillchen @kaia @chjara
     
     >use a water cooking device to cook water instead of a pot, even if u put it in a pot afterwards to cook food. it is more efficient and faster (unless u have an induction stove)
     
     I was wondering exactly if this was possible, because heating water over the stove is absolutely terrible
   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:48:32 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     • grillchen
     • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
     • kaia
     @coolboymew
     
     If I need to boil water and don't have to have something in it until hot, I start water in an electric kettle. Faster at minimum
     
     @grillchen @kaia @chjara
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   • grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:57:19 JST grillchen

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     • kaia
     @coolboymew @kaia @chjara yeah it works great. i tried to focus on low effort stuff. though for induction stove this doesnt count because they function very similar anyway. than just use the water cooker if u need hot water and the stove if u are cooking.
     
     
     big loss using a water cooker is pouring the water into the pot. but for ceramic hobs or even older tech it is more efficient to use it nonetheless
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   • Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:36:14 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club Honestly, they can add as many as they want, they will still be bad, unless they commit to a truly camera-phone.
     
     https://petapixel.com/2023/02/04/the-limits-of-computational-photography/

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   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 11:28:02 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     • kaia
     @coolboymew @kaia @chjara my phone's wifi is roughly twice as fast as its USB2.0 USB-C port, much better for me to use KDEconnect and Syncthing to sort out file transfers on it than MTP
     it's funny and a little sad seeing wifi (and even 5G) overtake wired ethernet on some modern devices because they insist on using 20-year-old wired NICs
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