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1. Jason Lefkowitz (jalefkowit@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 05:33:03 JST Jason Lefkowitz

   "Unlike the clean OSes you'd get from Google or Apple, Samsung sells space in its devices to the highest bidder via pre-installed crapware. A company like Facebook will buy a spot on Samsung's system partition, where it can get more intrusive system permissions that aren't granted to app store apps, letting it more effectively spy on users. You'll also usually find Netflix, Microsoft Office, Spotify, Linkedin, and who knows what else. Another round of crapware will also be included if you buy a phone from a carrier, i.e., all the Verizon apps and whatever space they want to sell to third parties."

   https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/the-samsung-galaxy-s23s-bloated-android-build-somehow-uses-60gb-of-storage/

   • Jason Lefkowitz (jalefkowit@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 05:33:00 JST Jason Lefkowitz

     in reply to

     • Xerz! :blobcathearttrans:

     @xerz I think a lot of it is just that "normal" people have such low expectations for tech. They've been beaten into just assuming that tech is always going to be slow and complicated and unreliable, because so often that's what it is. So it doesn't surprise them that their phone takes forever to reboot. Sure my phone doesn't work, what else is new? NOTHING works.

     A huge part of my practice is just teaching my clients that it's actually OK to demand better

   • Xerz! :blobcathearttrans: (xerz@fedi.xerz.one)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 05:33:01 JST Xerz! :blobcathearttrans:

     in reply to

     @jalefkowit I often see reviews which claim bloatware isn’t bad at all and that they “barely notice it”. Obviously they didn’t see how much space was trashed, and had barely used their phones before they started pushing ad notifications that aren’t obviously removable.

     The only clean phone experience these days is wiping an Android phone with LineageOS. Everything else is a waste and a disrespect to the users.

     Adrian Cochrane repeated this.
   • Jason Lefkowitz (jalefkowit@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 05:33:02 JST Jason Lefkowitz

     in reply to

     I can testify to this. My last Samsung phone was a Galaxy S7. It came with Facebook pre-installed, and the system would not allow you to uninstall it

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 08:43:52 JST Aral Balkan

     in reply to

     @jalefkowit Clean? Google?

     I guess they don’t count surveillance-based applications then.

     Samsung is shit, to be sure. But so is Google.