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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:38 JST
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@alex @eriner @NonPlayableClown >So public keys would replace IP addresses
https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/
Every IP in its subnet (200::/8) is a hash of a public key. "messaging every device on a switch" would be a nightmare in terms of scalability; Yggdrasil used DHT for routing but switched to CRDT with Bloom filters in 0.5.
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  End-to-end encrypted IPv6 networking to connect worlds
- Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:39 JST Alex Gleason
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  @NonPlayableClown @eriner I asked ChatGPT, and it told me essentially "if you have the public key, just message every device on a switch until one responds with a signed message"
  
  So public keys would replace IP addresses. You could still have hardware addresses I guess, or at least numbered ports. I can imagine how it could work in a tiny local network at least.
  
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- Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:41 JST Alex Gleason
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  @NonPlayableClown @eriner Well, public key cryptography lets us have an ID, and then prove that we own it. We could even publish a record from that ID, instructing people to connect by following a set of directions. But what are those directions? "Go straight down the pipe, then turn left, then turn right"?
  
  Hardware addresses only work in a trusted setting.
  
  Of course this also assumes we get rid of all the major telcoms and lay our own lines and create a whole new internet. But assuming we did that, could it be possible?
  
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- Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:42 JST Alex Gleason
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  @eriner We can replace DNS with blockchain tech... but can we replace IPs?
  
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- NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:42 JST NonPlayableClown
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  The answer is yes but you need a system in place to uniquely assign ids, and to redefine routing, subnets, and public and private allocation of ids.
  
  Ipv6 does in fact exist.
  Though the question comes into play what would you do differently?
  
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- Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:43 JST Alex Gleason
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  DNS is so fucked up. Relies entirely on trust.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:43 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @alex and you have to pay the authority cabal for the privilege of using your native language to connect to things instead of having to remember 38.99.102.33.
  
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- Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:31:45 JST Alex Gleason
  
  Did you know the entire internet works by hardcoding 13 IP addresses for the official root DNS servers sanctioned by the ICANN?
  
  https://www.iana.org/domains/root/servers
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:35:54 JST 0
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  Let Alex re-invent ARP storms if he wants to. "ChatGPT told me to." Lmao.
  
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- (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:36:56 JST
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  @0 @alex @eriner @NonPlayableClown "if you have the IP, just message every device on a hub until one responds with a message"
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_hub?useskin=vector
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  1. Ethernet hub
    
    An Ethernet hub, active hub, network hub, repeater hub, multiport repeater, or simply hub is a network hardware device for connecting multiple Ethernet devices together and making them act as a single network segment. It has multiple input/output (I/O) ports, in which a signal introduced at the input of any port appears at the output of every port except the original incoming. A hub works at the physical layer. A repeater hub also participates in collision detection, forwarding a jam signal to all ports if it detects a collision. In addition to standard 8P8C ("RJ45") ports, some hubs may also come with a BNC or an Attachment Unit Interface (AUI) connector to allow connection to legacy 10BASE2 or 10BASE5 network segments. Hubs are now largely obsolete, having been replaced by network switches except in very old installations or specialized applications. As of 2011, connecting network segments by repeaters or hubs is deprecated by IEEE 802.3. Physical layer function A layer 1 network device such as a hub transfers data but does not manage any of the traffic coming through it...
- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:37:58 JST 0
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  We just need Netgear to make a 4.2billion port hub.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 04:38:22 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @mint @0 @alex @NonPlayableClown ya modern networks are more than ring systems lol. BGP hasn't even come up in the conversation yet, yet alone making it to switched routing.
  
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