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1. ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 00:37:48 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

   Under capitalism, workers are exploited due to them being forced to exchange their labor for wages, while the capitalist class profits by appropriating the surplus value created by the workers. Workers, despite receiving wages, lack control over the means of production and decision-making, leading to an unequal power dynamic. Any worker who identifies with capitalists is suffering a form of Stockholm Syndrome, where they align with their oppressor due to systemic conditioning and societal norms.

   • Niclas Hedhman (niclas@angrytoday.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 00:37:46 JST Niclas Hedhman

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     • RD
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     @RD4Anarchy

     I try to engage in good faith. And no Socialist/Communist ever have explained how their proposed system can work without State Violence.

     Scenario; Community owns means of production. I start making hand-made shoes. Are the tools I create mine, or will they be stolen? At which point does "personal property" (stuff that isn't taken by others) becomes "community property"?
     How to enforce that? Coercion? No, then how?

     All such details are never mentioned.

     @Radical_EgoCom @passenger

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   • RD (rd4anarchy@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 00:37:47 JST RD

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     • Niclas Hedhman
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     @niclas @Radical_EgoCom

     >>...not theft, coercion, violence, kidnapping and murder, like (I presume!) you are advocating in form of Socialism/Communism.<<

     Why would you presume this? If you had just taken a quick look at the profile of the person you're replying to you would see information that contradicts this presumption. It may or may not make sense to you but it should be a clue to lead you to questions, maybe about some of your own assumptions and adopted narratives.

     I mean right there in their pinned toot it explains that they believe in "rejection of both state authority and class distinctions" and "a stateless, classless society where the means of production are collectively owned and managed by the community through direct democracy, voluntary association, and decentralized decision-making."

     Maybe don't be so quick to presume, at least if you're actually engaging in good faith.

     @passenger

   • Niclas Hedhman (niclas@angrytoday.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 00:37:48 JST Niclas Hedhman

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     @Radical_EgoCom

     Means of production; Except anyone in a true free society (not the Statism we have now) anyone can produce value for someone else to buy, asks others to help out (or not)...

     In a free society, there are only voluntary exchange of goods and services, not theft, coercion, violence, kidnapping and murder, like (I presume!) you are advocating in form of Socialism/Communism.

     Instead of demanding the State to steal for you; Start a commune, labor-owned means of production and so on