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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 21:43:36 JST nixCraft 🐧

   Honest question: Let us say Apple is not charging anything for 3rd party app stores for the EU. Do you think app makers will charge less for apps in the EU? Do you think Spotify will pay extra to artists for all streaming done in the EU region? Discuss.

   • Freevolt (freevolt24@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 21:48:43 JST Freevolt

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     @nixCraft No way. It''s free real estate. Maybe some portion can go to creators "as a favor" but no chance that 100% will go to them.

   • schrotthaufen (schrotthaufen@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 21:51:40 JST schrotthaufen

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     @nixCraft Absolutely not. That would mean less profits, which means smaller dividends.

   • Hope Destruction ♫ (hopedestruction@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 23:14:08 JST Hope Destruction ♫

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     @nixCraft Since the beginning of the year, Spotify isn't even paying the vast majority of artists on their platform (the small/indie ones) because they imposed a "revenue threshold", so... they don't.

     That's exactly why I left Spotify.

   • hdante (hdante@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2024 02:03:19 JST hdante

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     @nixCraft yes, It will change the app store market from a monopoly to an oligopoly, which has a small pressure for competition. Prices will drop based on the store's fee.

   • Hasko 🇪🇺🦄🌻 (lontrachen@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2024 02:33:25 JST Hasko 🇪🇺🦄🌻

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     @nixCraft I wonder if Spotify is a good example. I think the big players will get around everything, not matter what. They have the resources to build different apps for different continents. They will choose the options withe the best outcome for them.

     Also Spotify doesn't care for the artists, they seek market dominance.

   • SilentMobius (silentmobius@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2024 06:12:45 JST SilentMobius

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     @nixCraft it's not about existing large businesses who are and will screw anyone they feel they can. It's about allowing small developers to use and provide their own applications without needing paid subscriptions

   • Virkkunen (virkkunen@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2024 07:37:13 JST Virkkunen

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     @nixCraft on a tangent, doesn't Spotify pay like 75% of what it makes from streams already, and the blame is usually on the record labels for not paying the artists properly?

   • words_number (words_number@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jan-2024 23:40:17 JST words_number

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     @nixCraft No, since there is no competition for the most popular apps (due to the network effect), their (in app) prices are purely defined by what people are accepting to pay, not by costs or any other mechanism. So this change probably means more profit for apps and less for apple, which I think is more reasonable here and at least decentralizes the profits a little. I don't care though because I'd never buy apple shit and don't use proprietary apps all that much.

   • Plakat (plakat@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 17:27:14 JST Plakat

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     @nixCraft I think Spotify will continue to be a shitty company, ripping off artists. They just wanted to keep more of what they expected to be higher earnings… and I’ll stay with Qobuz who seem to pay artists a bit more and are also a European company.