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1. Sulla (sulla@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:28:54 JST Sulla

   In episode 1627 why did Adam say the Nazis were left wing? I think the Nazis were pretty clear they were 3rd position like all fascists.

   • ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:28:47 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠

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     • TJ of the Side-Eye
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     Hybrids.
     
     All "third way" beliefs are.
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   • TJ of the Side-Eye (tj@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:28:50 JST TJ of the Side-Eye

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     @Sulla

     Nazis were a mixed bag. It seems weird to call them centrists, but on average, it fits.

     Calling them random extremists doesn't seem to quite do them justice.

   • TJ of the Side-Eye (tj@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:28:53 JST TJ of the Side-Eye

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     @Sulla

     He got hung up on the "socialist" part of "National Socialist".

     An argument could be made that they were left wing, as they believed in many left-wing talking points.

     https://medium.com/@The_LockeSmith/were-hitler-and-the-nazis-politically-left-or-right-wing-e9fcc9d3ab1e

   • Sulla (sulla@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:28:53 JST Sulla

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     • TJ of the Side-Eye

     @tj Yeah I think he got hung up on that part too. But I personally don’t see them as left wing even if they had leftist views. They also had right wing views but I wouldn’t call them right wing. I think what they called themself and what most fascist call themselves is in the center a third position

   • ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:03 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠

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     • TruthBait
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     The war played into the hands of Western internationalist commercial interests and international Leftism, for sure.
     
     Big point is a more stable and farther-Right system is needed.
   • Sulla (sulla@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:04 JST Sulla

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     @truthbait But they weren’t Marxist. Not all socialism is Marxist. That is why Hitler made that distinction when it came to him defining socialism.

   • ≠ Brett Stevens ≠ (amerika@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:04 JST ≠ Brett Stevens ≠

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     • TruthBait
     @Sulla @truthbait
     
     It all leads to the same place, makes civilizations unstable, and makes their people weak.
   • Sulla (sulla@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:04 JST Sulla

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     @amerika @truthbait It took the world to butt fuck Germany. Who knows if they would still be around & cucked this hard if there was peace. Fuck ((banks)) fuck commies and fuck democracy

   • TruthBait (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:07 JST TruthBait

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     They were absolutely radical left wing (which Europeans and dishonest American leftists call right wing, but Nazis were just the "right side" of the left) Marxism is always left, but the elites that populate any movement tend to see themselves above pedestrian definitions of the day that we rabble scrabble over (think distraction). @Sulla

   • Sulla (sulla@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:08 JST Sulla

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     @truthbait So not left wing? Hitler didn’t like Marxism although fascist thought grew from the marxist movements in europe but ended up being pretty distinct

   • TruthBait (truthbait@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 12:32:09 JST TruthBait

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     The Nazis were radical progressives. Progressivism, which is a flavor of Marxism, is generally a creature of the left, but it's really a monster of the elites and they don't really care about left/right. They care about wealth/power/prestige/legacy and consider themselves above parochial matters of left and right. @Sulla