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1. xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 08:26:48 JST xianc78

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   • Mr.NutterButter
   • Your New Kemono Waifu :verified: :cornbread_the_cat:
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:
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   @Jain @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter They complied with non-Swiss court orders in the past. Just look at their transparency report from 2018.

   https://web.archive.org/web/20181020170954/https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

   If you look at their new transparency report, they don't even offer descriptions anymore, and they comply more than they resist, so who knows what it truly going on.

   ProtonMail has other flaws. For one, if you want to end-to-end encrypt your emails using PGP/GPG, you can't provide your own keys. ProtonMail generates them server side using your password. The only person who should have access to your private keys is you.

   Mr_NutterButter is right that no email service is truly private as you can never know what they are truly doing unless you have physical access to the server, but I wouldn't trust ProtonMail just because of these two flaws.

   My recommendation would be to use fedora.email which is run by @sjw (registrations are currently disabled but maybe you can PM him if you want an account) or posteo.de, which is a paid service (1 EUR/month and accepts cash-by-mail like Mullvad VPN) and allows third-party mail clients and using your own GPG keys.

   • :blabcatverified: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 08:26:49 JST :blabcatverified:

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     • Mr.NutterButter
     • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:
     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter protons argument is that they have to comply with law so they will collect metadata if they get a court decision...
     So, its fair to say that proton is not perfect anonymous, but its also fair to say that the court decision to spy on a french activist is fucked and that they complied with the law
   • iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta: (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 08:26:50 JST iced quinnsmas :blobcatsanta:

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     • Mr.NutterButter
     @Mr_NutterButter switzerland: :blobcatadorable: we don't allow warrantless spying and don't take sides
     
     also switzerland: :blobcatfrowningbig: we do both of those things now
   • Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 08:26:51 JST Mr.NutterButter

     Honestly the only reason I use protonmail is not because they proclaim to love privacy because no email service is private, but because they don't scrape my information sell it.

     And if they do it's not blatantly obvious.

     Plus I just like their dark themes better.