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1. Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 02:21:37 JST Electronic Frontier Foundation

   “If you have to go to copyright owners for permission for technological innovation, you’re going to get a lot less innovation,” EFF’s Corynne McSherry told Vox. https://www.vox.com/technology/2024/1/18/24041598/openai-new-york-times-copyright-lawsuit-napster-google-sony

   • Shambolic Matter (xorn@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 02:28:41 JST Shambolic Matter

     in reply to

     @eff Nice of you to continue your trend of standing up for giant corporations that make their money by standing on the necks of regular folks

   • Pablo Rrrrrrr (pablor@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 02:46:04 JST Pablo Rrrrrrr

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     @eff can I copy your website to ask for donations?

   • Arandmoor (arandmoor@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 03:17:19 JST Arandmoor

     in reply to

     @eff “If you have to go to copyright owners for permission for technological innovation, you’re going to get a lot less innovation,”

     Repeat after me, @eff .

     "Innovation is no excuse for theft."

     I'm as pro-tech as the next tech-nerd, but no, you don't get to steal everyone else's hard work just because you're a corporation instead of a single person.

   • nulll (nulll@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 04:08:16 JST nulll

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     @eff ah yes... law also applies to American mega companies

   • Visikde (visikde@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 04:37:38 JST Visikde

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     @eff
     AI should be keeping a distributed ledger documenting every use of information to build & use AI. The ledger used to pay royalties no matter the official copy write status, deep pockets should not be a prerequisite for remuneration

   • boltx (boltx@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 05:08:05 JST boltx

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     @eff Scraping data for a model at that kind of scale should only be legal if the resulting model is fully free (as in freedom) and open-source.

     Regardless of what fair use technically allows, taking public data to train a model with private ownership is unethical, especially when the motive is corporate profit.

     We can get this innovation with much less downsides when models are freely available, modifiable, inspectable, and open to all, just like the interpretations of the training data were.

   • AnnaTLeigh.bsky.social🏳️‍⚧️ (annatleigh@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 05:16:39 JST AnnaTLeigh.bsky.social🏳️‍⚧️

     in reply to

     @eff So much outrage in the comments. No wonder, as Mastodon is filled with anti-AI tankies.

   • Matt Godden (metaning@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 09:21:19 JST Matt Godden

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     @eff “If you have to go to copyright owners for permission for technological innovation, you’re going to get a lot less innovation,”

     Good.