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Eating meat violates the NAP cc: @alex @thatguyoverthere discuss
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@Hyolobrika @alex I don't think I would apply NAP to non human interactions personally. I see it as more of a social philosophy. I believe humans are violent predators by nature. I think NAP helps to build and maintain social groups but we should not ignore our nature.
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@Hyolobrika @alex I figured it was a joke, but it's an interesting questino to so yeah.
> you can justify actions that only hurt those outside of your social group
I don't know if I would say my application of NAP is limited to my social group (which is quite small), but an environment with reduced aggression fosters better human interactions. That said, I think the act of killing an animal for food is a form of aggression that is acceptable. I also think ending the suffering of an animal is justifiable, and obviously in defense of yourself or others under your care. I still don't think harming animals senselessly is good and would consider that a violation of the principle I suppose.
Maybe I subscribe to more of a Some Aggression Principle (SAP)
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If your morality is just about social cohesion then you can justify actions that only hurt those outside your social group, such as imperialism and slavery.
Also, the OP was semi-joking (but I do find the idea interesting)
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@thatguyoverthere @Hyolobrika @alex maybe the Sensible Aggression Principal?
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@MercurialPurple @alex @Hyolobrika some objects just need to be processed first
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@alex @Hyolobrika @thatguyoverthere If I can put it in my inventory it's an object if I can't it isn't
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@Hyolobrika @thatguyoverthere Of course. The only way it doesn't is if you consider animals to be objects, which the majority of people don't.
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@alex @Hyolobrika @thatguyoverthere I put my buddy Eric in my inventory once
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@Hyolobrika @alex no. I think realistically speaking that outward aggression eventually finds it's way back home. NAP applies to people, and while I agree with Alex that animals aren't "objects" that doesn't make them people anymore than it makes trees people. Animals (and plants) can be property in spite of also being alive. Both can also be processed into "objects" with some work.
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My point was that a society stratified between free people and slaves, or that invades other countries for resources, can be internally peaceful. Does that make it just?
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