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1. cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 00:06:53 JST cool_boy_mew

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   @mangeurdenuage @eee @noyoushutthefuckupdad
   
   >You get a copy of the assets when you pay for them
   
   No you don't
   
   Good luck having this sort of control on a DRM'd game, or console digital download for example. Good luck trying to rip assets from a cart or game disc. It's possible, there's tools, but you need a significant amount of work to make it all work on what is ultimately a grey legality thing
   
   You need to work on the DRM shit first and making sure that customers can actually have access to the stuff they own
   
   Once again, you're starting at step 10 when step 1 to 3 of this haven't been properly established
   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 00:29:02 JST anonymous

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     @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @eee @noyoushutthefuckupdad Ultimately what needs to happen is digital products need to have strict protections, much like physical products in the US (probably elsewhere to) have.

     You bought it, you get a copy, you own it. The company cannot take it from you. You can share with friends. You don’t have to ask for permission to do anything with it once you’ve paid for and received it.

     This entire problem rests almost exclusively on the shoulders of anti-piracy fags and copyright law.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 00:34:24 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @anonymous @eee @mangeurdenuage @noyoushutthefuckupdad yes, and that protection needs to go on physical stuff too
     
     You can legally make a copy of your games and blu-rays or whatever, but the provider is also legally able to attempt to cuck you in any sort of ways in the process, which is the whole problem in the first place. And then there's the digital "purchase" problem where it becomes even more of an issue to be able to go get them because you need a significant amount of hacking more to get to get and being able to record them if streamed
     
     Once companies are not allowed to cuck you out of your owned stuff, that makes dumping significantly easier, hell, they might even be required to make it easy for you to dump your own stuff
     
     Once we're actually allowed to fully do this is when the software source argument actually becomes viable as you can actually start arguing that now unsupported software aren't working anymore on old tech, OSes, etc and we can't expect the companies to maintain them forever, so then the customers could do it themselves
     
     But you can't get there without customers being able to fully own their shit in the first place
   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Jan-2024 00:42:47 JST anonymous

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     @coolboymew @eee @mangeurdenuage @noyoushutthefuckupdad >that protection needs to go on physical stuff too For the most part it is. You can take a book for example and light it on fire right outside of the store if you want to and the courts (at least in the US) have affirmed this and many other rights regarding physical ownership. There was a time where the saying “ownership is 9/10ths of the law” meant something.

     It’s all the mental gymnastics people have done to convince themselves that owning a property forever and penalizing those who attempt to share it that have caused a majority of this rot. People need to shake away this knee-jerk reaction to innocuous things like piracy and we all need to collectively come up with more common sense rules regarding this kind of thing.

     I honestly wouldn’t mind getting rid of copyright law altogether myself.

     >You can legally make a copy of your games and blu-rays or whatever, but the provider is also legally able to attempt to cuck you in any sort of ways Current copyright law and anti-piracy measures were always retarded.

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