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@Moon i think it's hard to categorize star trek in these ways, economy essentially plays no role because there's no real scarcity anymore (that's not really possible but they can pretend it is). But i agree that it's not at all 'woke' in the way it's used now.
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@lain @Moon >tfw you can't categorize a fake thing on the screen as either based or woke
pulling my car into oncoming traffic rn
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@roboneko @Moon the whole thing is really unclear throughout every star trek show. at least in roddenberry trek it's generally written as if things are non-scarce enough that everyone in the federation doesn't care about money.
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@lain @Moon
> economy essentially plays no role because there's no real scarcity anymore
there are various references to spending credits in addition to things that are clearly businesses. I think it plays almost no role because the writers didn't choose to explore it (for the most part)
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@roboneko
DS9 touches upon people living in fringe colonies and the hell they go through.
"Do you know what the trouble is? The trouble is Earth-on Earth there is no poverty, no crime, no war. You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see paradise. It's easy to be a saint in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. Out there in the demilitarized zone all the problems haven't been solved yet. Out there, there are no saints, just people-angry, scared, determined people who are going to do whatever it takes to survive, whether it meets with Federation approval or not."
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@Awoo @roboneko @Moon DS9 is when they started moving away from roddenberry's original vision. him being dead probably helped.
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@lain @Moon yeah but how many "regular" people who aren't living on flagship vessels do we get to see?
it does seem a bit odd tho if I stop and think about it
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