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1. 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:16:52 JST 受不了包

   • Moon

   @Moon@shitposter.club yea but bitches refuse to use xmpp with me

   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:16:46 JST 

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     @laurel @allison @shibao @Moon >as long as Telegram doesn't start abusing its users
     It already does with phone numbers and absolutely sudden full deletion of accounts by doing nothing, like it already happened both to myself and my boy @diazepam.
   • laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:16:47 JST laurel

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     @allison @shibao @Moon
     
     I don't get this whole obsession with clients. Even the js ones are fine.
     I think a lot of people just like the discord bloat.
     
     Telegram's success is the result of making the right choices over a very long period of time, slowly bringing whole community ecosystems over. XMPP hasn't been a viable alternative for nearly as long as Telegram has. And as long as Telegram doesn't start abusing its users it'll be difficult for alternatives to become big enough so that network effects kick in. Much like fedi really where it was *chan's/twitter's/reddit's moderators that basically attacked their own users.
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     @shibao @Moon What I don't get is why nobody forks the Telegram client and just swaps out MTProto interoperability for XMPP, they already did all the hard UX work for you and the end result would run on everything from Windows to OpenBSD to Haiku
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:16:49 JST 受不了包

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     @allison@hidamari.apartments @Moon@shitposter.club conversations.im is honestly like basically there, just for android tho. gajim isn't that far off

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     @shibao @Moon XMPP with Telegram UX would honestly be my ideal chat platform
   • 受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:16:51 JST 受不了包

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     @Moon@shitposter.club bitches refuse to accept my xmpeni[USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR THIS POST]

   • laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:21:49 JST laurel

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     @mint @Moon @allison @diazepam @shibao
     
     Damn I didn't know about these. Latest Telegram censorship I had heard about was them deleting some terrorgram channels years ago.
     Still, in comparison to what it took for re*dit and shitter cattle to come here, it's gonna take a lot more than what they are currently doing.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:25:13 JST 

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     @allison @laurel @shibao @Moon Attachment encryption with OMEMO is still broken in Psi+.
     https://github.com/bascht/omemo-top/issues/257
     Conversations takes a shitton of time to connect and load the chat history.
     Screen Shot 2024-01-14 at 21.23…
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     @laurel @shibao @Moon To interoperate with most people using XMPP now, you need OMEMO support. This effectively leaves you with the choices of a few CLI clients (self explanatory), Gajim (I refuse to use it again after it managed to hang my i7-8700k desktop for a full minute accessing messages, on top of already pulling in Python and GTK and a bunch of other undesirable things), Psi+ (Russian ??????, OK if you like the old AIM style UX but lack of dark mode makes it a non starter for me), Dino (GNOME), Conversations (mobile only and simultaneously the only truly decent one on this list) and probably some others I'm forgetting either because they're not widely used or they're simply too new to support what is expected of a modern client.
   • laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:27:47 JST laurel

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     @allison @Moon @shibao
     
     I sort of like converse.js. (supports OMEMO)
     I host it and I've even got some normie people to use it when they want to send me something privately.
     It also has an electron release, pretty sure Telegram Desktop is also electron.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 15-Jan-2024 03:28:33 JST 

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     @laurel @allison @shibao @Moon >pretty sure Telegram Desktop is also electron
     It's Qt6 (which makes it a pain in the ass to rebuild after each system update).
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     @mint @laurel @shibao @Moon I literally am that soyjak to a degree you couldn't even begin to comprehend, probably from a youth spent in the likes of terminal emulators and KDX (KDX is probably still the single prettiest chat application I've ever used even if it's way too heterodox for most people here)
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