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1. Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵] (platypus@glammr.us)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 01:54:51 JST Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]

   Thousands of archivists and librarians over here gesticulating *yes, finally, we've been saying this for a decade+*

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     Related: https://gizmodo.com/when-the-internet-archive-forgets-1830462131
     
     It keeps happening, see the UTZoo saga or when IA nuked an entire site because someone who had strings to pull was angry.
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   • Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵] (platypus@glammr.us)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 02:26:13 JST Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]

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     And since the top of the thread is getting a lot of eyes, I'll reiterate the above, that 100% capture and preservation is not what librarians and archivists have all been wanting when they've made these observations.

     Ephemerality can be good! Some things should come and go.

     But the idea that things are online so they're stable and permanent and LESS volatile than a book has been... a real bane for a lot of us.

   • Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵] (platypus@glammr.us)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 02:26:14 JST Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]

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     In some ways, maybe it's fine, but also maybe it's not. However the broadsides and pamphlets metaphor is a good one (and one I'm pretty sure I've heard at least one archivist use before)

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   • of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 23:24:20 JST of nothing

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     • Wendell Bell
     @platypus @wndlb d) it's 'archived' on youtube and that's good enough until the channel is abruptly deleted over some long-retroactive censorship unrelated to the video in question
   • Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵] (platypus@glammr.us)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 23:24:21 JST Ruth [☕️ 👩🏻‍💻📚✍🏻🧵🪡🍵]

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     • Wendell Bell

     @wndlb no. We weed print based on use and space, which is certainly its own loss.

     We lose digital because of a) negligence from publishers, b) publishers/hosts going under, but primarily c) things never being preserved in the first place and our inability to afford access to lots of content we'd like even at well-resourced institutions.

     Journalists have seen whole back catalogs disappear offline and not been saved properly, etc.

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   • Wendell Bell (wndlb@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Feb-2023 23:24:24 JST Wendell Bell

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     @platypus Weren’t the shelves of a books-only library circa 1985 pruned in the same way?