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@greentext this strikes too close to the heart.
I went to spend the holidays with my mom, and I fixed no less than 3 laptops for assorted family and relatives in the meantime.
All of them with the same problem: shitty old machines with crappy processors, spin hard drives and between 2-4 gb RAM. In all of them I made the owners buy a new SSD and some RAM, then I put them in the machine, installed Windows 10 LTSC and some needed apps and unfortunately all of them had corrupted hard drives and there was no way to save the data in the new disk (because I couldn't be arsed to spend hours transferring stuff from a shitty disk to an external drive).
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@Suzu @greentext I picked up a drive caddy recently with two slots, which is useful in general when doing disk management stuff, but also it just has a button on it that you can press to mirror slot 1 to slot 2. Don't even need to plug it into a computer.
Harddrive speeds are still harddrive speeds but it can save you an iteration half the time.
Also next time just install puppy :^)
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@greentext @Suzu (This is my approach to tech support now: "I don't use Windows because I think it is garbage. If you want me to fix your computer, step one is to install a non-garbage OS. If you don't want that, go bother someone else or pay me".)
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@Zerglingman @greentext the thing is that this is not something that I tend to do on a regular basis (not even for me), so it's not worth for me to invest in something like that.
>install puppy
And then having to keep providing tech support to the completely oblivious owners of the laptops? Nah, put Windows in it, it's the thing they know that exists and then their stupid tech illiterate sons can help them with basic stuff. Windows 10 LTSC doesn't come with most of MS's crap and will have security updates until 2032, they'll be fine.
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@Suzu @greentext You install puppy, put a bunch of .desktop files in relevant locations with different names, and never say a word.
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@greentext @Suzu (Honestly you could probably get away with having the bootloader just run chrome directly)
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@Zerglingman @greentext probably. They still want to do stuff like pulling pictures from their phones (because boomers want to hold it in their computers), edit photos, etc.
That's why I just install Windows, so they can load any bull crap program they want in it with support from the dimwitted younger people that live around, and I don't need to bother teaching them how to do stuff.
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@Suzu @greentext Also I don't really do disk imaging all that often either but just once was enough for me to grab my dad's old drive caddy, get extremely frustrated that the bay was about 8 sheets of paper wider than it should have been to actually hold the drive straight, and go get a new one
Which is about 4 sheets of paper too wide
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@Zerglingman @greentext now, when I get back home later today, I want to do some shit and I'll need some data from an old laptop I have that's not working anymore. I can't remember what kind of disk it had, but I hope it's a SATA drive that I can easily plug on my PC, I don't want to have to buy a caddy just to save data from an old IDE laptop disk.
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@Suzu @greentext If it's a laptop drive you can probably get one of those dirt cheap cable converters. I bought one of those first which seemed like a really great solution, except USB can't pull enough power to run a 3.5. -.-
I did not get one with 2 USB plugs, that probably would have worked. :/
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