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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:32:42 JST Aral Balkan

   • PINE64

   Kitten (https://codeberg.org/kitten/app) now installs and run perfectly on the @PINE64 #PineBookPro.

   What does that mean? That there’s a $200 machine for Small Web development. Think of the possibilities for education…

   Now, we just need to get the Linux kernel patched so external displays work on the device… (https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-rockchip/patch/20200924063042.41545-1-jhp@endlessos.org/#24546071)

   Also, if we can convince the #NodeJS folks to create binary builds with musl for ARM, you’ll be able to do #SmallWeb dev on a PinePhone too. (https://github.com/nodejs/unofficial-builds/issues/50#issuecomment-1408182258)

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:43:08 JST Aral Balkan

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     • PINE64
     • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

     @ainmosni You can’t see it but I’m rolling my eyes :)

     @PINE64

   • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈 (ainmosni@berlin.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:43:13 JST Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

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     • PINE64

     @aral @PINE64 Not sure if letting kids deal with JS and its ecosystem is permitted under child cruelty laws. :P

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:45:10 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

     @ainmosni Thanks! That’s by design :)

   • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈 (ainmosni@berlin.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:45:11 JST Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

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     @aral That said, the small web ecosystem doesn't look as nightmarish as the average JS stuff.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:59:03 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

     @ainmosni Exactly. Because most JS stuff is Big Tech :)

     The Small Web is Small Tech.

     So there’s one command to install it. No build process. And it’s designed for creating sites and apps that are owned and controlled and service one person (single-tenant servers) :)

   • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈 (ainmosni@berlin.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 19:59:06 JST Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

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     @aral Most JS stuff is more complicated to build than entire operating systems, and have a dependency chain that would reach the moon if it was printed out, at a glance those two patterns seem not present here.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 20:12:26 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

     @ainmosni Well, I don’t know whether it’s feasible or not. I just know that I’m doing it ;)

   • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈 (ainmosni@berlin.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 20:12:28 JST Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

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     @aral And I also still disagree on the single-tenant service being very feasible, but disagreements are healthy. :)

   • Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈 (ainmosni@berlin.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 20:12:29 JST Daniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈

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     @aral Good goals, I do still abhor JS though... :P

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 22:24:58 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jason

     @dbb Yay! Let me know how you get on :)

   • Jason (dbb@thevelvetedge.net)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 22:24:59 JST Jason

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     @aral htmlx might be the thing that could make client-side dev tolerable for me again, something I’ve desperately needed for years to get excited enough to complete another project.

     Thanks for the lead!

     https://htmx.org/docs/#introduction

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 22:31:30 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Stevens R Miller
     • PINE64

     @stevensrmiller Sorry, I’d forgotten the alt-text so I deleted it and added it (you can’t edit a photo yet in Mastodon).

     @PINE64

   • Stevens R Miller (stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 22:31:31 JST Stevens R Miller

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     • PINE64

     @aral @PINE64

     Pic says "Not available."

   • Stevens R Miller (stevensrmiller@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Monday, 30-Jan-2023 22:31:31 JST Stevens R Miller

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     • PINE64

     @aral @PINE64

     Ah, visible now!