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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:19:18 JST Eugen Rochko

   #Firefox is by far the best browser on desktop. Let me be clear, I am not saying that because I am ideologically opposed to using Google products. I use YouTube and Google Workspaces. Chrome genuinely has nothing to offer over Firefox. If your website doesn't work in Firefox then I'm not using your website.

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   • Randy (randyyy@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:24:11 JST Randy

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     Firefox is just the best browser, should not even be a discussion 😁

   • Xav (zav_@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:24:51 JST Xav

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     @Gargron Have you tried Arc yet? I heard it finally released on Windows a few days ago 😅

   • tessarakt (tessarakt@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:27:03 JST tessarakt

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     @Gargron Like Google Maps :-/ Most of the times it works, sometimes it does not load tiles in Firefox. Then I use OSM instead.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:28:58 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • tessarakt

     @tessarakt I've never had an issue with Google Maps in Firefox

   • Drake Thomsen (thomsendrake@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:31:03 JST Drake Thomsen

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     @Gargron I'd love to switch to Firefox but there are some extensions on Chrome that I absolutely need to use for work that aren't developed for Firefox.

   • Jeff Grigg (jeffgrigg@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:35:58 JST Jeff Grigg

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     @Gargron

     Looking for independent input, I find that this site
     https://www.techradar.com/best/browser
     says

     1. Mozilla Firefox
     (But: somewhat Slow & Memory Hog)

     2. Microsoft Edge
     (But: Fight for Default, Does Not Work on Older Computers)

     3. Opera
     (But: Not Fastest)

     4. Google Chrome
     (But: Resource Hungry)

     5. Vivaldi
     (But: Excessively Customizable, to the point of Distraction?)

   • Jeroen Wiert Pluimers (wiert@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:42:31 JST Jeroen Wiert Pluimers

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     @Gargron I tried to switch. Serious keyboard queue handling issues are holding me back moving as because of #a11y reasons I need excellent keyboard support.

     Hopefully @stevetex gets through their treatments and recovers well (fingers crossed, not just out of experience). After that (health first!) I hope to assist their team in addressing those issues.

   • Pyperkub (pyperkub@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:44:07 JST Pyperkub

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     @Gargron I use different browsers for different jobs, but FF desktop and especially mobile (ublock w/o root FTW!) are my primary drivers.

   • Blanker Hans 🇮🇱 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 (igel@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:02:48 JST Blanker Hans 🇮🇱 🇺🇦 🇵🇸

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     @Gargron I'm using Firefox even on my phone, but I like the better profile support in Chrome. I have a work and a personal profile and it does work in Firefox, but it's pretty rough.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:10:09 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • RJ

     @RemeJuan I'm sorry, I'm not really worried about coming across any of your websites.

   • RJ (remejuan@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:10:10 JST RJ

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     @Gargron Probably been a good 6 years since I’ve even bothered to check if a website works on Firefox. I have far more important things to do than worry about 3% of the world

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:10:43 JST xs4me2

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     @Gargron

     Same opinion here. Have been using it since the beginning and Netscape and Mosaic before that…

   • martin lentink 🇪🇺 🍋 🟥 (martinlentink@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:15:22 JST martin lentink 🇪🇺 🍋 🟥

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     @Gargron +1

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:25:46 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Tina 💙🎶🌻

     @tc_morekindness I move tabs between open windows all the time.

   • Tina 💙🎶🌻 (tc_morekindness@c.im)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:25:47 JST Tina 💙🎶🌻

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     @Gargron I've been using Firefox primarily for several months now. But one thing I miss from Chrome is the ability to move an open tab to another window that's already open (not just move it to a new window). Also putting a label on a group of tabs. I'm one of these people who always has a gazillion tabs and several windows open. (Maybe I need to cure myself of that habit.)

     There are some Firefox features I like, though, that Chrome doesn't have.

   • Bluevelvet (bluevelvet321@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:28:41 JST Bluevelvet

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     @Gargron and librewolf is a very good fork of Firefox with security and privacy optimized

   • George Dinwiddie (gdinwiddie@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:30:53 JST George Dinwiddie

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     @Gargron I've been using Mozilla since the M2 milestone. 🙃

   • Jeff (njinco@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:36:22 JST Jeff

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     @Gargron just went back to firefox at the moment cause chrome just eats ram like crazy... XD and some work website doesnt work on chrome or is clunky lol.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:36:44 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Garrett :spinning_pinwheel:

     @heygarrett If there's no way around it you can always just open that page in Edge and do what you need to do. Not like you can only ever use one browser forever.

   • Garrett :spinning_pinwheel: (heygarrett@social.lol)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:36:45 JST Garrett :spinning_pinwheel:

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     @Gargron Unfortunately not everyone has the luxury of choosing not to use a website just because it doesn’t work outside of Chrome.

   • Luís Henrique ⚡ (luishenrique@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:40:56 JST Luís Henrique ⚡

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     @Gargron Firefox is great, my favorite too. But on android I have some problems with it, so I use chrome

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:47:27 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Tina 💙🎶🌻

     @tc_morekindness Yes, I use drag and drop. Most commonly between two different screens, but sometimes I switch to another window with Alt+Tab while dragging. You can also hover the window in the task bar to bring it up while dragging.

   • Tina 💙🎶🌻 (tc_morekindness@c.im)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:47:28 JST Tina 💙🎶🌻

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     @Gargron How do you do it? In Chrome, I'm used to right-clicking on the tab and then having a choice of which window I want to move it to. Do I need to reduce the windows enough that I can drag tabs between them? Or is there an easier way?

   • comrad 🇪🇺 (comrad@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:51:31 JST comrad 🇪🇺

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     @Gargron Firefox is mostly sponsored by Google. So to me this is also a Google product.

   • Éric Freyssinet (ericfreyss@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:20:43 JST Éric Freyssinet

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     @Gargron Actually Firefox does not allow for PWA (which Mastodon implements), and that is still genuinely a plus on chrome/chromium's side.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:22:33 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Konstantin :loading:

     @Konstantin It does not feel that way!

   • Konstantin :loading: (konstantin@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:22:34 JST Konstantin :loading:

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     @Gargron but Google has the fastest browser engine.

   • EyeQ62 (eyeq62@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 05:37:33 JST EyeQ62

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     @Gargron I've been hearing people complain about sites that don't work with Firefox, but I've yet to encounter one. I'm of the same mind as you though; if a site doesn't work with Firefox I won't be using that site.

   • Franklin Delano Stallone (fds@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 08:17:14 JST Franklin Delano Stallone

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     @Gargron I've used it since it was Netscape Navigator. I do primarily use Safari now simply because the content blockers are too good but it's a shame it's gone off the deep end.

     I think it's a combination of we let web technologies get out of hand making it near impossible for anyone other than a major corporation to develop a successful browser and most people rely on popular brands rather than quality. Mozilla leadership hasn't help in the past either.

     I hope they turn their luck around.

   • Scotty Trees (scottytrees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 08:36:10 JST Scotty Trees

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     @Gargron Also, if you're on Linux you should be using Firefox, full stop.

   • zaki (errorgurumeditation@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 09:09:48 JST zaki

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     @Gargron unfathomably based

   • hdante (hdante@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 09:38:51 JST hdante

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     @Gargron my site does work with Firefox, it's just that it's best viewed with Mosaic

   • Christiano Anderson (canderson@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 17:24:35 JST Christiano Anderson

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     @Gargron agree! Both on desktop (Linux) and mobile (Android), Firefox is awesome!

   • ProperDave (properdave@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 17:34:15 JST ProperDave

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     @Gargron
     The way the world is going, it feels like we're going to end up with websites sporting "Works best in Internet Explorer/Netscape" badges again.

   • gregx (gregx@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2024 03:25:34 JST gregx

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     @Gargron I work with websites and I have Firefox, Chrome, Brave, Opera and Edge on my PC, knowing that all of the latter are based on the free Chromium which I also use. If a website doesn't work in Firefox, it may work with the Chromium based browsers and vice versa. But I always make sure that my websites work on all browsers. :blobcatcoffee: