Hey Fedi Admins, y'all federating with this? :Threads_Burning: #FediPact
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Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 17:16:41 JST Erik Uden 🍑 - :awoo_tired: shotgun snuggler :clownpiece_smug: repeated this.
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Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 17:16:39 JST Aral Balkan @ErikUden Last I checked mastodon.social was.
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Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 18:34:47 JST Erik Uden 🍑 @aral thanks to Dansup's and Nume McAaroon's tools it's very easy to check:
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Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:16:36 JST Erik Uden 🍑 @yukijoou @skobkin that too! As well as not moderating alt-right, fascist, or openly Nazi accounts.
Sorry not sorry, we ban individual users if admins aren't capable of enforcing their rules fast or well enough, but we defederate if admins willingly allow users that discriminate and break our rules.
I don't care if it's a 10 user or 141.000.000 user network. Allow fascists, you won't be part of our internet.
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yuki - queen of the snow (yukijoou@fedi.kemonomimi.gay)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:16:37 JST yuki - queen of the snow @skobkin @ErikUden afaik, they used some transphobic posts in ads for their platform too -
Alexey Skobkin (skobkin@lor.sh)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:16:38 JST Alexey Skobkin @ErikUden
How exactly are they endorsing users to break their rules? -
Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:16:39 JST Erik Uden 🍑 @skobkin No, I'm suggesting to defederate from instances who not only allow but endorse users who disobey your rules, especially when it comes to discrimination, disinformation, etc.
If Threads was a Mastodon instance it would violate almost every instance's rules.
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Alexey Skobkin (skobkin@lor.sh)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:16:40 JST Alexey Skobkin @ErikUden
Are you suggesting to block large instance just because there are some morons or trolls? -
Kerosene (kerosene@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 10:18:56 JST Kerosene @ErikUden @yukijoou @skobkin >.de
The holocaust didn't happen and I want your police force to know that you were in a secret chat with me just a couple days ago denying this event and laughing at jews.Gyaru Enjoyer likes this. -
bronze (bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 16:58:51 JST bronze @ErikUden even nature itself doesnt like your kind :awoo_tired: shotgun snuggler :clownpiece_smug: likes this. -
Tadano ❄️🎅 (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 01:55:15 JST Tadano ❄️🎅 @ErikUden @skobkin From what authority are these supposed fediverse-wide rules derived from? I don't think a kraut who goons to autogynephiliacs nor any other similarly degenerate Mastodonger has even the pretense of such authority. Get off your high horse you jannytorial faggot! :marine: xianc78 likes this. -
Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 01:55:16 JST Erik Uden 🍑 @skobkin have you ever run a social network? You're telling me I should individually ban each Nazi on the 141 million user social network instead of just defederating from the Nazi network all together? Sorry not sorry, but that's just not possible. Every Admin has a limited amount of time. If your instance isn't moderating discrimination it has no place interacting with our users.
Those were the rules for every other Fediverse instance, and we do not discriminate nor favor Threads in any way. They are to be treated like every other instance.
For me personally an instance's user's ability to not be harassed but protected is more important.
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Alexey Skobkin (skobkin@lor.sh)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 01:55:17 JST Alexey Skobkin @ErikUden
I see.
But still if it's their instance then your rules don't apply there.
Not sure how they can endorse someone to your instance users though.
Also not sure why ban entire instance instead of just suspending or limiting bad actors too.It lowers an amount of moderation work needed, but degrades the decentralized network.
For me personally instance user's ability to read anyone is more important. -
Erik Uden 🍑 (erikuden@mastodon.de)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 01:55:18 JST Erik Uden 🍑 @skobkin they endorse users who disobey our rules by pushing accounts like Moms for Liberty, Gays Against Groomers, or other alt-right and far right accounts / viewpoints. They allow such users on their platform even after reporting, which means they are tolerating what they are posting.
Again, if this was a Fedi instance it'd be defederated.