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1. :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:11 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

   oof

   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:07 JST xianc78

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     • Mr.NutterButter
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer

     @beardalaxy @Pawlicker @Mr_NutterButter These space exploration games are WAY too ambitious. It seems like there hasn't been one that truly wowed players since StarFlight.

   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:08 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     • Mr.NutterButter
     • PC-9801 Enjoyer

     @Pawlicker @Mr_NutterButter i don't think i even know if that's the case. there are waaaaay more problems with the game than just the engine. if this game was in unreal and you could fly planet to planet and there were more randomly generated structures to explore, yeah it would be better, but it wouldn't solve fundamental design decisions that plague it. it's not like they'd spend any more time fixing up bugs if it was in a different engine, you know? it's not like the story would get any better, or the variety of *anything*.

     plus, people are still doing crazy things with skyrim's iteration of the creation engine that bethesda just chooses not to do. idk if you've seen skyblivion or not, but it's a remake of oblivion in skyrim and the amount of passion going into it is crazy. it's not even just a remake of oblivion at this point, it's a functional overhaul with a lot of attention to detail. and it actually looks really great too, graphically. same thing with fallout london, they're doing insane work at a much faster pace and with much more soul.

     if bethesda can't make shit like this on an updated version of their engine over a decade later, what good are they as a studio? quite frankly they should be dissolved and their IPs should be handed to someone else because i don't know how much of their culture can be salvaged at this point.

     i think bethesda probably suffers from a lack of good management as well as, though i hate to say it, a lack of good talent. those things go hand in hand too.

   • PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:09 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     • Mr.NutterButter
     @beardalaxy @Mr_NutterButter another thread said it best but their reuse of the same old ass engine bit them hard this time
   • :meru_B: b e a r d (beardalaxy@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:10 JST :meru_B: b e a r d

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     • Mr.NutterButter

     @Mr_NutterButter that's not rumored, that's straight from the modders themselves lol. many aren't modding it because they just don't like the game, some aren't modding it because what they want to do is literally impossible because of engine limitations.

   • Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:22:11 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @beardalaxy Ya the cope and nostalgia for Bethesda is wearing off and people are starting to wake up to the reality of how mid and uninspired the game is.

     It's also rumored that a large majority of modders have given up on the game because they just don't find any joy in playing it, so why even fix it if they could.