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1. Red Maple (redmaple@merovingian.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2023 04:23:48 JST Red Maple

   Correct me where I'm wrong.

   Mgtow is a set of behaviors in response to a corrupt society: No wife. No kids. No cohabitation.

   Red pill is a way of seeing the world. Aka seeing reality and nature of the world.

   If the above is true, then you can be mgtow and be blue pill (or black pill). And this I see a lot of conflict with, saying incels/black pills can't be mgtow.

   Correct me where I'm wrong.

   • Heil_Honkler (heil_honkler@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2023 04:23:44 JST Heil_Honkler

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     • houseoftolstoy
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   • houseoftolstoy@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2023 04:23:45 JST houseoftolstoy

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     @redmaple You are not. I know guys who are basically MGTOW but never have used the acronym, likely do not label themselves as such, and maybe never even heard of the term. But still, they do not desire marriage or family, whether they understand marriage to be a risky prospect or just do not see the motivation to be married and have a family.

     Mgtow is only a recent label. We have had bachelors throughout all of history (or functional ones such as monks). This is hardly a new phenomenon.

     Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks repeated this.