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1. Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:03:58 JST Machismo
   🤔 If a browser requests an image due to a script, can that script (or any script) delete that image from disk afterward, while still rendering it in the page?
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:06:26 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman it's easier to isolate entire browser on a separate filesystem mounted on a ramdisk than worry about stuff like this.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:06:43 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up No the problem is that the browser (read: bookwalker) seems to be doing this, and I want to rip the images.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:10:59 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman it's more likely that everything is encrypted and images or whatever format used are decrypted only for display so then they don't have to worry how your browser uses cache because it's all in memory.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:14:13 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Well it's making perfectly normal http calls and receiving perfectly normal image/jpegs (albeit it cuts them up into boxes and rearranges them, but that's not memory fuckery), and those images have filenames which don't show up in a find.
     Which could just be that palemoon does not store images on disk, at least not with the name given by the server, but my memory is it does, in /tmp/palemoon-USER; but it's not there.
     
     Hmm, yeah, if I try on my own site which is doing nothing strange at all, it doesn't show up there either, so my assumption is wrong.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:29:54 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman even if it did, it looks like it uses same filenames for all pages which is 0.jpeg, 1.jpeg and sometimes 2.jpeg
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:31:05 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up ?
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   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:33:00 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman that's what I see in a trial preview after scrolling through some pages.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:34:24 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up That's weird; the response doesn't include a filename so I assume that's just that browser or whatever doing it.
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:35:50 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     @Zerglingman as long as you remove it and refrences, the browser SHOULD clean it up but no you can't do memory management in js lmao
     unless you mean some third party script in which case uh, you can try accessing the cache manually? but probably a bad idea
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:39:47 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja Basically I'm trying to locate where it's stored, because I was under the assumption that the browser saved it to disk. But I've already realised that's not the case, after testing an image on my own site; that's definitely not behaving weirdly.
     Plus, bookwalker would probably try to prevent that anyway. It occurred to me just now that if you make a call in a script, even if the browser sees that as a call and displays it in network tab, it would necessarily go into a variable in the script.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:47:42 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman the direct url to the image does, in any case, I dont see any easy way to do this automatically without running selenium configured with selenium-wire to automatically go through pages and log all network traffic.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:49:06 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up I would have thought any sensible browser would just let you save the image as it's displayed. But the modern web seeks to be faker and gayer than I could ever imagine.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:53:14 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman there are ways to access network traffic in google chrome from javascript extension but apparently I can't find the equivalent in firefox.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:55:07 JST Machismo

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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up I figure it doesn't need to be that complicated. I should be able to grab it later, when it's actually on the page, like the browser's supposed to do.
     
     >firefox - Save HTML 5 canvas to a file in Chrome? - Stack Overflow
   • Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:56:02 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi

     I long for the days of returning to static hyperlinked documents with no dynamic content.

   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:57:00 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman the problem is that the site uses DRM and browsers are made for DRM-respecting consooming.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:58:18 JST Machismo

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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Yeah but we have hurr durr praibashee browsers, surely somewhere along the way one of them would go "hey, if we're valuing 2nd party above 1st party, wouldn't it make sense to expose full control to them?"
     Y'know, assuming that at least one of them isn't a honeypot.
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:58:46 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     @Zerglingman ah for piracy? yeah the cache uses sqlite databases like picrel (atleast in palememe and i believe its the same as ff)
     there's third party tools that exist for pulling that shit if thats what your trying to do. its definitely not something that can be hidden by the page scripts. i think the only restriction youd have to worry about is something like widevined media, which youd want to patch the browser to acquire (yourself, because warez bros HATE sharing)
     
     in the profile here im looking at storage/default/https+++comp.lain.la/idb/*.sqlite
     it's just chunked up and inconvenient to pull from without specicialized software/scripts
     you can find if something is cached btw at about:cache, which lists them all and hexdumps and other info
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:59:41 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja Well first I'm going to see if I can just dump the current contents of a canvas, because if that works I can also skip descrambling step.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 23:59:54 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja ... but this looks useful too.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:00:13 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman well, selenium is a framework for debugging which is what you need and best thing you will find for such sites, it's still easier than say, trying to rip a video directly from GPU memory from a streaming service.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:00:56 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up There has never been a time at which streaming was not incredibly fake and gay.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:02:56 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman tell me about it, netflix literally will not let you watch 4K stream unless you use windows, have specific model of novideo GPU, a monitor that's the brand of their liking... And then they cry when I torrent it for free.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:03:14 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up >(((netflix)))
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:03:31 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     @Zerglingman thats doable and certainly theres some approaches here, ranging from supported js functions to a screen recorder lol. but that's webrip not webdl, not as good.
     if there's drm plugin involved like in ff or such you will be blocked form using js functions to capture, and some other ways. so you gotta patch them out. luckily for you firefox comes in chunks so if you only need to modify one part you can use the rest precompiled and save MASSIVE time :3c
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:03:44 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja Like this?
     blob
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:04:44 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman yeah that's just most popular streaming service. Anyway, americans don't seem to care to sell movie copies in DVD's in my country in stories so I'm not sure what they want me to do about it.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:05:40 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Destroy the illegitimate state of Israel, clearly.
   • Hachikuji Mayoi (douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:06:46 JST Hachikuji Mayoi

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     @Zerglingman not my problem, I can just download it from someone who cared to rip it and if noone cares to rip something it's shit anyway.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:07:36 JST Machismo

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi
     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up Yeah you don't have to stop doing that 🕶
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:08:58 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     > The canvas's bitmap is not origin clean; at least some of its contents have or may have been loaded from a site other than the one from which the document itself was loaded.
     interesting, weird error.
     
     i was thinking more like these though the same error should apply https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLCanvasElement/captureStream https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLCanvasElement/toBlob
     
     looks like its just a cors issue though https://stackoverflow.com/a/27260385 and depending on browser but there should be extensions available to modify cors on pages, js can't always do that on its own
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:09:31 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja Fucking CORS man. Is there anything it doesn't fag up? Literally just skill issue on user's part.
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:11:56 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     @Zerglingman cors has its use but then every fucking retarded website decides its a bare minimum to restrict fucking everything because anything but a same origin seperate script file is literally malware
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:23:25 JST Machismo

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     • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
     @mja Ok, so I can copy data URL and paste it into python and have it spit out an image; turns out this is relatively straightforward.
   • Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 00:36:27 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)

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     @Zerglingman nice nice
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 01:14:00 JST anonymous

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     • Hachikuji Mayoi

     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @Zerglingman Or firejail

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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 01:28:13 JST anonymous

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     @douse_niggers_in_gasoline_and_light_them_up @Zerglingman They don’t want you owning physical because possession is 9/10ths of the law. Also most Americans are too busy eating cancer and drinking to care about anyone besides themselves.

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