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1. Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:27:03 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

   Lord save me from people who think maintaining separate accounts to access different community spaces is somehow the greatest tragedy to befall the internet and such a terrible infringement on their convenience that to suggest it has some good effects is some kind of personal blasphemy.

   You've never had an identity you had to hide for your own safety and it SHOWS.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:27:01 JST Eugen Rochko

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     @fraying Nobody prevents you from having different accounts and identities on the fediverse. But if you want to follow people from corporate silos without exposing yourself to those corporate silos you currently can’t. Lucky for you if everyone you ever want to talk to is on xoxo.zone. If not, you’re benefiting from interoperability right now.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 12:50:20 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Ooze 𓁟

     @Ooze @fraying If I want to use Instagram, they get my email, password, IP, browser version, screen size, operating system, which pages I visit and how long I spend there, access to certain parts of my phone; they get to show me ads and shape my interests through opaque recommendation algorithms. If I could follow an Instagram user from Mastodon, they’d get the profile I chose to make public on the World Wide Web, and I’d get the posts I want in my home feed. Tell me how this is equivalent.

   • Ooze 𓁟 (ooze@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 12:50:21 JST Ooze 𓁟

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     • Eugen Rochko

     @Gargron @fraying Federating with corporate silos is exposing yourself to them.

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 15:35:54 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Ooze 𓁟

     @fraying @Ooze The following is my understanding, partially speculative. They believe they can attract and keep creators who are tired of switching platforms on their platform by assuring them they would be able to leave any time without losing their followers, and given legislation like Digital Markets Act moving towards enforcing interoperability between platforms this might even become a regulatory requirement for them.

   • Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 15:35:55 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • Ooze 𓁟

     @Gargron @Ooze We all know how evil Meta is. That’s why many of us are here and not there! But that’s also why we’re worried about their motives in the fediverse. It would be good for you to show some empathy to that concern.

     In your example above, you perfectly explained why it’s against their business interests to fully federate. So, honestly, why would they? What do they get for giving up the money they can make from users within their walled garden?

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 15:42:52 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • Ooze 𓁟

     @fraying @Ooze I don't think they're worried about losing a significant percentage of their userbase through interoperability because they most likely believe they can offer an enticing experience (e.g. for people who want algorithmic feeds) and in terms of potential revenue lost I don't think Mastodon's 1.6M MAU would register next to their own 100M.