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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:43:48 JST nixCraft 🐧

   OpenAI suspends ByteDance’s account after it used GPT to train its own AI model: Isn't it hypocritical to use the copyrighted work of others without permission but deny others the same opportunity? OpenAI scrapped the entire Internet but is now acting holier than thou.
   https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/15/24003542/openai-suspends-bytedances-account-after-it-used-gpt-to-train-its-own-ai-model OpenAI can train on various data types such as text, images, books & videos without permission, but competitors can not access it once it's in their system. So, yes, it is a problematic version of copyright

   • Geekosaurus (kahomono@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:46:22 JST Geekosaurus

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     @nixCraft scrapping the internet might be a good idea in some ways but I'm pretty sure you meant "scraped"

   • nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:46:22 JST nixCraft 🐧

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     @kahomono yes, i fixed it. sorry about that.

   • Freevolt (freevolt24@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:52:16 JST Freevolt

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     @nixCraft ngl. In this case, I'm slightly in favor of OpenAI. Deciding which data to collect can be their thing, right? (even though it's so much questionable) Directly learning from it is referring to the data itself, PLUS which data it collected.

   • Atanas Laskov 🏳️‍🌈 (laskov@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:56:42 JST Atanas Laskov 🏳️‍🌈

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     @nixCraft in the near future AI models feeding off each other's hallucinations will go completely nuts

   • Egee (egeexyz@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 23:02:41 JST Egee

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     @nixCraft You have some really good takes 👍

   • Zeki Çatav 🤔 ☕ 🕯️🎶 (catavz@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 23:21:40 JST Zeki Çatav 🤔 ☕ 🕯️🎶

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     @nixCraft When entering Openai, the data comes from the left side and copyleft is valid. When leaving Openai, the data comes from the right side and copyright is valid. This is the situation. 😋

   • The Keymaker (thekeymaker@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 23:44:30 JST The Keymaker

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     @nixCraft Do as I say, not as I do.

   • vruz (vruz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 00:26:18 JST vruz

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     @nixCraft Ethical and moral matters aside (and I personally don't think copyright makes any sense at all in this context) I think an entity like the FTC has jurisdiction to look into the anti-competitive practices of OpenAI.

   • sudoedit (sudoedit@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 00:31:14 JST sudoedit

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     @nixCraft But I bet they worked really hard to steal all that data from people on the internet. It’s unfair for someone to come along and try to make a copy of it.

   • Gilles Bonnet (gillesbonnet@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 01:13:58 JST Gilles Bonnet

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     @nixCraft this is called circular référence so at the end, AI feeds itself...

   • Sumukha S (halfbloodprice@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 01:17:44 JST Sumukha S

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     @nixCraft ByteDance can do the same right? Build their own AI from the Internet. No one is stopping that. I don’t think this is fair to openAI.

   • Jylie (wrenjames@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 01:35:47 JST Jylie

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     @nixCraft if you have to train ai with ai, it is pointless? a clone of a copy is just more fake than the forgery