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1. cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:08:46 JST cool_boy_mew

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   @Moon @PurpCat @kirby I was on Freezepeach for a while, but I wasn't there at the beginning. I don't know why they were made. I remember moving to one myself when Twitter (and other sites) started putting off-site activity thing in their ToS. Sealion was made to be specifically a Gamergate related instance
   
   Pretty sure the "troll instance" thing is bullshit. Gnu Social being Gnu Social, most people probably didn't last long there and I was quickly one of like 3-4 remaining active users on freezepeach
   • jeff@mk.magicka.org's status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:09:59 JST jeff

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club @Moon@shitposter.club @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @kirby@lab.nyanide.com SLC was buggy af

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:11:04 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @jeff @Moon @PurpCat @kirby all GS instances were. As the fedi grew and better software came, GS instances all started to implode
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:13:40 JST Pawlicker

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     @coolboymew @kirby @jeff @Moon I tried to host a GS instance with the SPARC a while back on OpenBSD and I saw just how fragile the code was firsthand.
     
     Also; it is still very much broken and won't work on PHP 8 because some shit it relied on broke, hasn't been rewritten yet, the only guy who still cares is some guy in Japan obsessed with it, and that's on top of lagging behind what the last few years of Pleroma/Mastodon/Misskey have introduced.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:14:22 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon wasn't it pretty much a completely abandoned project that didn't have enough comments so it would have been an ordeal to actually fix it?
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:15:39 JST Pawlicker

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     @coolboymew @kirby @jeff @Moon Also it's low quality PHP code, which is a shame because if you're stuck with a cpanel shithost in a world where only php exists you don't have a lot of options in that regard.
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   • jeff@mk.magicka.org's status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:15:43 JST jeff

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     @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @coolboymew@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com @Moon@shitposter.club php is stored in the balls tho

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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:18:07 JST Pawlicker

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     @jeff @Moon @coolboymew @kirby A lot of fedi instance software stacks require running them as root, and a lot of shitty/cheap cpanel hosts out there do not let you do this.
     
     Which isn't a problem for wordpress or drupal or phpbb or xenforo or nextcloud but is for hosting Pleroma.
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   • arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Dec-2023 08:37:00 JST arcanicanis

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     I’d point more to it relying on MDB2 for all the database interactions, whereas MDB2 doesn’t work in recent versions of PHP which broke some things of reverse-compatibility (supposedly in the sake of better performance?), and that library hasn’t been updated for beyond a decade: https://pear.php.net/package/MDB2

     It’s that it may entail reworking anything DB-related to move off of MDB2, which could be the whole project, or else fixing MDB2 to run in ‘modern’ PHP. I assume everyone would rather just write something entirely new, but pretty much any of the efforts miss the point, such as not doing: easy moddability via plugins, being able to run on constrained hosting environments, being able to just extract an archive and use a web installer versus expecting everyone to be a Linux neckbeard to use build tools, etc.

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