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1.  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:15:03 JST 

   • Pawlicker
   @PurpCat Do you recall any stories of furry artists doxing their commissioners via paypal or vice versa? I figured that might be the case considering it shows the legal name in transaction history.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:21:58 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint None that come to mind that I can explicitly link other than knowing "it's almost certainly happened and the posts are probably gone", but I'm sure it's been laundered first too to avoid leaking that part art (since it'd be a business killer).
     
     However when it comes to vice versa, all the damn time. A paypal.me link almost always shows a real name if you did not set up a business account, and Kiwi Farms, doxbin, and the like use this trick all the time. Search paypal.me on KF for example and you will find how it does a great job of outing locations and real names.
     
     The trick to avoid this is to set up a Paypal Business account and every single furry artist with some brain cells does this.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:27:18 JST 

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat >Paypal Business account
     Don't you need some registered LLC for that?
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:29:17 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint Not in the USA
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:31:06 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint Also; the whole Powerchat shitshow and numerous streamers doxing donators (this happens all the time).
     
     I think the reason furries use PayPal is twofold, it's easy to use for retards and you get the money right away. The second part is very important, especially since furries have not even the most basic sense of money management.
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   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 09:32:13 JST 

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat This plus the fear of crypto because of muh environment or similar issues, I reckon.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 10:31:20 JST Pawlicker

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     @mint Oh I forgot reason 3 for chargebacks: pulling off scams, which is common with furries given they are literally all hood rich. But artists in fact are infamous for this behavior, of taking the money and running.
     
     https://nitter.uni-sonia.com/KazanIsFatzan/status/1717336377355096455#m
     https://nitter.uni-sonia.com/KingAwoofClubs/status/1717216711064105486#m
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   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 10:31:21 JST Pawlicker

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     >This plus the fear of crypto because of muh environment or similar issues, I reckon.
     
     Nowadays yes, furries have crypto on their shitlist and some furry will have a Google Doc on why crypto bad (tm). But even a few years ago, it was something they didn't know about, didn't understand, nobody used it, and/or it's slow.
     
     One more thing; what is much worse than the dox issue with the furry sphere (and has been for ages) is the fact that PayPal is extremely ban happy, and this was even worse when they were eBay linked.
     
     In particular with artists, it's against ToS to take money for adult art, so artists will insist that you do not put what the payment is for to avoid being banned; and getting banned means they have to work at McDonalds. This and the passive income for doing nothing I'm sure is why so many moved to Patreon.
     
     Another funny thing as well that I just remembered are chargebacks. Artists hate when you do this so much because they just spent the money they got given, and there's 2 kinds.
     
     The first kind is what shit artists deserve; when someone charges back on the artist for not doing the damn job. The second kind is a sign of American parenting: someone would commission art with mom's credit card, without her knowledge, and when mom saw the charges she was grilling the kids until one of them confessed (or lied about how it wasn't me to avoid mom finding out about his "double life" as a furry), to which mom then calls the company and cancels the charges. The drama will be amplified if it's a kid getting furry porn of his sona while a minor. Nobody ever asks questions about why the fandom is full of sex addicts, just once you hit the magic number being a sex addict is now okay.
     
     Search on Nitter if you want to see how common this is:
     https://nitter.uni-sonia.com/search?f=tweets&q=artist+chargeback&since=&until=&near=
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   • Foxdick Farms (foxdickfarms@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:29:23 JST Foxdick Farms

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     @PurpCat @mint
     >why the fandom is full of sex addicts
     
     Nearly everyone I know in the furry fandumb is coom-brained. Even the far-right furries.
     
     The "Altfurry" chatrooms were full to the brim with degenerates. Even weird shit(literally) like scat, piss, and vore.
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