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1. LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 14:53:40 JST LoliHat

   • チャガタイくん@喜多川海夢推し
   @Moto_Chagatai Nature is not something to worship like those twig-worshipping Gaia freaks want, but something to fight against. That most people in civilized countries don't have to deal with that but rarely, demonstrated one of the main reasons humans embraced civilization to begin with.
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 14:53:39 JST Kyonko802

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     @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai I've always been a proponent of having a healthy middle ground. We shouldn't be going out trophy hunting, but I'm not gonna pretend something wouldn't eat me just because I have a smaller more friendly version of it in my home
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   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 15:01:53 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Kyonko802
     @Kyonko802 @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai if you regularely go into the forest you must have a pet cougar.
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   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@bae.st)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 15:37:26 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Kyonko802
     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @Kyonko802 @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai beeg cat
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKwKysk5rEw
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 06:25:11 JST Kyonko802

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     • бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid:
     • lolipunk2069
     @lolipunk3069 @DerLeere @EdBoatConnoisseur @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai I think a 357 would just piss off the bear
   • lolipunk2069 (lolipunk3069@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 06:25:12 JST lolipunk2069

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     • бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid:
     @DerLeere @EdBoatConnoisseur @Kyonko802 @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai At least .357 magnum revolvers are properly suited as a back-up gun for dealing with bears [and wild boars]. Or so I've heard.
   • бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid: (derleere@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 06:25:13 JST бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid:

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     @EdBoatConnoisseur @Kyonko802 @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai
     >revolver
     >bears
     i hope to god you guys mean as a backups backup
     1st and second should be spray and any decent calibre rifle/semi-auto shotgun
   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 06:25:14 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Kyonko802
     @LoliHat @Kyonko802 @Moto_Chagatai own a mountain lion and a 45-70 revolver for bears
   • LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 06:25:15 JST LoliHat

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @Kyonko802 @Moto_Chagatai
     
     Mountain Lions are why open carrying large caliber revolvers is a sensible precaution.
   • бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid: (derleere@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 07:00:14 JST бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid:

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     • Kyonko802
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     • lolipunk2069
     @Kyonko802 @lolipunk3069 @EdBoatConnoisseur @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai
     it'll punch through
     you just have to make sure you hit it's spine/skull
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   • lolipunk2069 (lolipunk3069@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 03-Dec-2023 07:00:20 JST lolipunk2069

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     • бүх зүйлийн төгсгөл :DamnFemaleKid:
     @Kyonko802 @DerLeere @EdBoatConnoisseur @LoliHat @Moto_Chagatai An Ammoland article compiled a series of incidents regarding self-defense situations against bears with various handgun calibers. Seven incidents of success at defense with .357 magnum, one incident of failure. It's doable, but not ideal. The hot load variants would probably be preferred.
     
     From the article, .40 caliber and up produces more consistent results.
     
     As for the article, it's here: https://www.ammoland.com/2021/06/handgun-or-pistol-against-bear-attacks-104-cases-97-effective/
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