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(D) that became an (I), with pageantry. Ran for vice president during Gore's presidential bid. In any case, Liberman was a fascist piece of shit since forever. Spent the 90s trying to ban red pixels in video games and censor the internet, huge fan of surveillance, and he always backed whoever promised to murder the most foreigners during their presidential campaign when he wasn't running, Clinton, McCain, Biden. He has apparently never seen a police state he didn't want to simultaneously emulate and bomb.
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@p @theorytoe
These tools constantly need an enemy to distract from the decay at home.
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@amerika @theorytoe Well, here's something interesting: violent crime decreases as availability of violent media increases; likewise with pornography and sexual assault. If you take it as a given for a minute that you know this and you're a senator, and you spend most of your time trying to expand the police and broaden surveillance and start wars, then trying to censor red pixels in video games and remove all photos of a boob from the internet starts to look sinister.
I was thinking about this, like Operation Choke Point, where Obama went after porn stars, gun stores, tobacconists, prostitutes, etc., and I wondered if the other stuff was just tossed in as PR, like to say "This is about stopping human trafficking and things like that", or if there is some sort of concerted effort to stamp out some of the more popular vices. And you know, some riots happen, some people are setting shit on fire, and which politicians are fans, and :tinfoil: I GET TO THINKING MY THOUGHTS :tinfoil:.
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@p @theorytoe
To me, the consistent problem is this: the more of a method-based system we have, the more it gets gamed.
Therefore, it must be streamlined.
This excludes dealing with trivial stuff like drugs, alcohol, tobacco, pornography, etc.
There is also a utilitarian freedom argument, which is that a happy population which is not worried about getting tripped up by some persnickety rule is more relaxed and more functional.
If we just end diversity and socialism, then peel the laws back to 1850 or so, this country would be doing OK.
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@amerika @theorytoe
> the more of a method-based system we have, the more it gets gamed.
Oh, absolutely. Rigidity encourages cracking instead of bending, and some people slip through cracks, some people sneak through cracks.
> There is also a utilitarian freedom argument,
There is, but I think the issue with politics is it is concerned with maximizing happiness for inert blobs of people that will be grey-content no matter what is happening. You have kids with no aptitude for math and Common Core tries to get them up to basic levels of arithmetic and it not only doesn't work (and backfires spectacularly) but it also blunts the sharp kids. Utilitarianism is probably a worse philosophy than anything else: I don't really care if psychopaths and parasites do well, as long as they don't hold anyone else back, and utilitarianism is basically "We didn't think that 'Harrison Bergeron' was satire, it was so heavy-handed that we assumed it must have been utopian."
> peel the laws back to 1850 or so,
Society improves the minute we bring back "fighting words" as a defense against assault charges.
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@dcc @theorytoe Recreational nukes solve yet another problem!
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@p @theorytoe @dcc As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving grows closer to 0.
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