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1. pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 10:25:25 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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   • Christmas_Man
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   > perfectly synthesized "leg_punch_02.wav" file.
   
   Yeah, Rick Beato said that this was more or less what killed rock: the drummer doesn't drift any more because some guy in a back room with Beat Detective perfectly quantizes every snare and every kick, then snaps the vocalist to the grid, the guitar, the bass, so it's got a mechanical regularity and it sounds completely lifeless. He proceeded to just swap drums from one track with drums from another and then guitar from a third and you couldn't tell, everything is perfectly sync'd.
   • anti-semite (mord@stormcloak.info)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 19:18:45 JST anti-semite

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     I can get behind how much easier it is for the producer to mix individual tracks together when finishing a song, and it's faster/cheaper/etc due to less mistakes, but I much prefer the sound of a band playing the song together at once when recording.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 19:18:45 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @mord @judgedread @Christmas_Man Yeah, the thing about the mistakes is that sometimes they go somewhere interesting. You work and rework a song and sometimes it improves the song but in any case, it improves the songs on the following album.
     
     The other thing Beato covered (might have been a different video, and this I don't know for certain and only have his video to go on, so grain of salt) was that the guideline for most studios was that they'd sign a deal for five albums and develop the band without expecting the first couple of albums to pay off, but the studios now have the songs written by guys that wrote hit songs in the 80s/90s and then have a producer quantize it and pitch-correct it and the band is really just a bunch of faces.
     
     The video is a bit long to post here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFaRIW-wZlw .
     the_darkness--hot_cakes--01--every_inch_of_you.mp3
     † top dog :pedomustdie: likes this.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 19:18:46 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @mord @judgedread @Christmas_Man Yeah, a normal drummer drifts a little, 170bpm, 150bpm, the bass hangs back a little sometimes, it gives the song a real feeling. The drummer is basically providing samples for a mixer to treat like a drum machine now; even in the 90s you started hearing bands complain about overproduction or that their album didn't sound like what they played.
   • anti-semite (mord@stormcloak.info)'s status on Saturday, 02-Dec-2023 19:18:47 JST anti-semite

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     It's awful. When I used to go to church, I played bass with the band... When one of the many drummers quit going, we played with a computer generated drum beat for a time, and it made me never want to pick up the bass again.