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BEEPBOOP WRITE ME 12 THOUSAND EROTIC FANFICTIONS ABOUT ROBOTS RAPING HUMANS BEEPBOOP HA-HA-HA
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Don't give the Japanese ideas please :ExpressionlessDanielS:
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@Sui @NonPlayableClown @Darbzilla @11112011 @Zerglingman @dicey @Hyolobrika
Can i ask for a rewrite of the frozen script to make elsa and anna a gay couple?
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@lonelyowl @Sui @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Zerglingman @dicey just wait a decade. That'll be the next fad, after the Disney live-action remakes: Disney Rainbow remakes.
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@apropos @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @dicey
The strange world already has a queer character, so with a high probability i expect elsa to have a girlfriend in the next sequel, but it won't be anna and the sequel will probably turn out to be garbage 🥺
They already fucked up every plotline except elsa's one in frozen 2
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@lonelyowl @apropos @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @dicey >Frozen lore
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@NonPlayableClown @apropos @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @dicey @Hyolobrika
I see no other reason to watch movies :thinking:
I dislike avatar2 and studio ghibli cartoons, i can't watch movies only because they have good graphics or have couple of interesting scenes or concepts.
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Remember when folks watched movies because a premise seemed interesting.
Oh well can't wait for Disney to remake this clip.
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@NonPlayableClown @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey @Hyolobrika
I read frankenstein out of curiosity and i can see why some might find it boring as shit, but i personally find it.... okay, not great, but not terrible. I think if victor had agreed to create an ugly girlfriend for his creature, but it turned out that both monsters were disgusting to each other, it would have been more funny and terrible at the same time 😀
But at least this thing is relatively short.
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Our literature teacher in high school was more liberal about this question, she allowed us to write essays about books we like instead of rigidly following the school course, so i wrote my essays about the stainless steel rat
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I like how in school English/ literature teachers didn't realize that.
If the story sucks, it's almost like we didn't read it, and care to answer your dumb question based on the plot of the book.
I remember falling asleep trying to read Mary Shelly's Frankenstein.
Thank goodness spark notes existed.
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@Sui @Darbzilla @11112011 @Zerglingman @lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika Hahaha, yeah, who would want a robot girl to rape them, ahaha
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Hey Sui it's one those folks you were talking about earlier.
Don't worry I'm sure she's over 300 years old. 🤣
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@NonPlayableClown @Hyolobrika @dicey @lonelyowl @11112011 @Darbzilla @Sui @Dicer >not even a loli
>not even sexualised
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@lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @Sui @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey
It's a brilliant story of hubris. Basically the garden of eden but with tools.
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>Not even sexualised
"Hahaha, yeah, who would want a robot girl to rape them, ahaha"
Hmmm... I wonder what that means.
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The biggest element of hubris in Frankenstein was that Mary Shelley ever imagined she'd be as good a writer as her parents or husband.
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It was definitely the "first" horror novel story, in the worst way possible.
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I've read Frankenstein 4 times.
"Horror?" More like "borror." Amirite?
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@NonPlayableClown @gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @amerika @apropos @dicey @Hyolobrika
I read that it was the first real science fiction, since the monster was created by the "scientific" method, but i can't call it horror. It's more of a drama, tragedy or something like that. The monster is not here to scare you :thinking:
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@gibbon @lonelyowl @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
Having read some of her other books, I beg to differ.
She is like a cross between Aldous Huxley and Flannery O'Connor.
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@gibbon @NonPlayableClown @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @dicey @Hyolobrika
It is slower paced like the novels of its time, but I was not bored.
I was bored reading Dracula, can enjoy Conan Doyle, liked H.G. Wells, Dafoe, and Stevenson, so...
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@lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @Sui @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey @gibbon
The monster is terrifying because he is unstoppable.
That is the essence of good horror; the sci-fi part is that human technology is the source of the horror.
Hence parallel to the Garden of Eden mythos.
For another take: Moby-Dick, of course.
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I've never read the original Dracula but heard that it wasn't that great either.
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@amerika @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey @gibbon
But was he unstoppable? And was he even a monster at all, and not just a lonely and ugly suffering dude?
Frankenstein's monster wasn't even remotely like some unimaginable inhuman eldritch horror, it's not hard to understand and sympathise with him. To me, this story is more about victor being a cunt. He created the monster and then throughout the story tried to absolve himself of any responsibility for it, refusing to try to fix his mistake or mitigate the harm in any way.
The monster offered victor to create him an ugly girlfriend so they could run off to some ass-end of the world and never bother him or anyone else, but he refused.
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That's the angle that the author goes for, but Frankenstein's monster comes across off as a whiney stalker virgin.
Monster: Make me a wife.
Frankenstein: Sure
*Assembles another corpse*
Frankenstein: Lol psyche, I grew a conscience for some reason. Later bitch.
Monster:
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>"slower paced"
Nigga, it's like 205 pages. Bitch wrote it in a week. She couldn't make it snappy?
Percy drowned on purpose after people like you read his wife's book.
You find more boredom in Doyle than Mary Shelley? The daughter of William Godwin and Mary Wollstonecraft, two of the most boring writers in history? She wrote something more compelling than The Lost World? [Wollstonecraft was actually a good read, but I hate feminists.]
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This is a correct take. Moby Dick is good. Mary Shelley sucks.
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@gibbon @amerika @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
I should probably read it, i haven't read much english classical literature :thinkin:
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I'm being mean for no reason. I liked the book the second time.
I simply do not believe it's so impactful that it needs reading in every lot class possible. High school? Frankenstein. Intro to lit? Frankenstein. Brit Lit 1? Frankenstein! Age of Enlightenment [History/Philosophy]? FRANKENSTEIN! :soyjak_cry:
There are so many more impactful authors to read. For example, I never read Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Minister's Black Veil in school. Young Goodman Brown is usually the only Hawthorne short people read, which I would classify as horror, but will concede it technically isn't it.
Frankenstein, at an academic level, has been entirely overrated because Mary Shelley is female. If she were male, it would be about as popular as The Purloined Letter.
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I don't look into the pasts of people before I read a lit book. Blake, Coleridge, Byron, Browning [husband and wife], Tennyson, Yeats, and I need to look at some of my notes. I would say start with Robert Browning. Milton is worth reading once. I was always a fan of The Rape of the Lock and Idylls of the King.
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You are 💯 correct.
Another book I despised was "The Awakening"
Which is about some dumb bitch fucking other men because she's bored and rich.
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When did school become about torturing its male students? It's weird that they make us read shit like that in high school.
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>Frankenstein has, if memory serves, a bit of a "hump" after the introduction of characters before the action kicks
The "hump" is a characteristic of most entertainment I dislike. After x amount of pages, chapters, episodes, movies, it gets good.
Just make it better served or cut the fat out of the story.
Why make a sub par meal if the spinach taste like shit, but the meat/ steak is excellent?
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@gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
I don't think it is boredom; these writers just wrote for a slower pace and an audience that was not saturated in television and gadgets.
It may not be your thing. I understand how that could be the case! Doyle also has his slow moments.
Frankenstein has, if memory serves, a bit of a "hump" after the introduction of characters before the action kicks in where Shelley front-loads some concepts to be exploited later.
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@NonPlayableClown @gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @dicey @Hyolobrika
Total political book. People love it for the propaganda.
Like "To Kill a Mockingbird."
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Funny that no one talks about the sequel to that book where the author males it where she completely regrets the events of the last book and shits on black people.
I'm not even kidding. Look it up.
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@gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
Hawthorne is also worth reading.
Some of the best novelists are women.
The PC people always pick turds like Toni Morrison though.
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I'll counter this point.
Male writers focus on world-building. Female authors tend to focus on interpersonal interactions.
It's not that "some of the best are women;" it's that most people can't suspend their sense of disbelief, so they stick with what's familiar.
It's the part of the reason sci-fi and fantasy still aren't looked at as "real literature." It's because the focus is on creating a universe, not building characters in a universe in which every reader already knows the rules.
Look at the rules of Hogwarts compared to LoTR. Why do people like Harry Potter? It's the characters. The setting is just a decoration for the people. It's easier to suspend disbelief for Harry Potter than it is for the contents of The Silmarillion, because you're focused on people not intricate details of the tale's history and the universe's natural laws.
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@gibbon @amerika @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
> Why do people like Harry Potter? It's the characters.
That's not true. I personally never liked harry potter, but i've heard more than once from it's fans that the characters (and harry himself) suck, but they love that city-fantasy wizarding world and fandom
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@gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @amerika @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
Don't be too harsh to them, it's okay to subjectively like art of questionable quality. Sometimes, if people like something for subjective reasons, they are able to turn a blind eye to the shortcomings of the work.
I for one really like spec ops the line, i personally consider it one of the greatest games of the last decade. And i don't care if the gameplay in it is complete rubbish 😀
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Then they're even more retarded than I imagined. I also hate J. K. Rowling's writing.
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But, do YOU look at Hogwarts and think it's a complex universe? Or is it simply mysterious, whimsical, and fun? The world-building is very 'loose.' The fact that "they like it" doesn't mean what I'm saying is off the mark.
Why is Nicholas Sparks so successful with romance? Does he world-build or character-build? [You obviously have to have both for any story to be "good." I'm saying that typically men are better at building the 'skeleton' and women are better at adding the 'tissue.' Why are Amy Hennig's games so compelling? She could leave a lot of the world-building to the developers' imaginations on top of her own talent.]
"Men make houses, women make homes." Same principle applies.
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That's because Spec Ops: The Line is a great story.
I'm cool with anyone liking anything. I have my own trash tastes. I accept that they're trash, though.
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@gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @amerika @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
I personally think HP is boring as fuck, i read the first three books and dropped the fourth. But i like yud's HPMoR a lot
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I never got into the books and movies for that reason. It's just boring to me.
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I read one. It was boring, but tolerable. I read Chamber of Secrets, thought it was solid. Moved to the third, boring as shite. Fourth, worse and longer. Watched the movies, "Oh! It's a Jesus allegory! I finally understand why atheistic, White-wine cat-feminists fucking love this!"
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@gibbon @lonelyowl @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
It's whimsical and quirky, like one of those "cozy" novels but for people who believe in magic words.
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@lonelyowl @gibbon @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey
I think that is the point: she basically wrote a Disney ride with cool places to visit and weird quirky stuff to distract the proles from living in a dying society.
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@gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @NonPlayableClown @dicey @Hyolobrika
And then there's Ursula LeGuin...
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@NonPlayableClown @gibbon @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @lonelyowl @dicey @Hyolobrika
The hump was more characteristic of older literature in that they needed time to introduce themes to use later, and also operated at a slower pace for people who enjoyed the act of reading as some of their only entertainment.
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@gibbon @NonPlayableClown @lonelyowl @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey @Hyolobrika
Isn't all of Harry Potter basically egalitarian propaganda?
The enslaved mud-bloods versus the natural born aristocrats?
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@NonPlayableClown @lonelyowl @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @Zerglingman @apropos @gibbon @dicey @Hyolobrika
Compared to literature, sci-fi, and fantasy of the best sort, this is true.
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@amerika @NonPlayableClown @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @Sui @Zerglingman @dicey @gibbon @lonelyowl monetization also affects length. You can see that coming back with webnovels that pay the author by wordcount and which expect new chapters 3-5 times a week.
The 20th century paperbook is more like a movie: a few hours long, hits the plot, done, and that you can still read the paperbook after the show ends is only an accident of technology.
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@apropos @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @dicey @gibbon @lonelyowl
This was always what drove me nuts about Dickens.
"No, please describe every tablecloth in the room again, I am waiting with bated breath..."
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@amerika @gibbon @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @apropos @dicey
Not really.
JKR doesn't understand all this leftist egalitarian anti-slavery anti-racist etc. stuff. She doesn't understand the logic and reasoning behind it, knowing only that saying words like "racism is bad" somehow leads to being seen as a good person. So she tries to play with these themes. But then introduces house elves as a natural slave race, using good old confederate arguments.
Honestly, GPT2 has more room for generalization.
If this thing is an egalitarian propaganda, it's a really silly and low-effort one.
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@lonelyowl @amerika @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @apropos @dicey @gibbon >But then introduces house elves as a natural slave race, using good old confederate arguments.
wtf I like Rowling now
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@lonelyowl @amerika @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @dicey @gibbon but then, shoeonhead has a very good youtube video about how the "Barbie" movie fails so badly at being woke propaganda that may as well be a right-wing (still girlpower) movie.
George RR Martin is also a massive libshit who intended nothing but evil with the Game of Thrones, and completely unintentionally wrote in some heroic figures.
I think, when people try to stay true to their characters, try to have realistic interactions, try to set up and resolve story conflicts in believeable ways, the result just isn't very left-wing.
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@apropos @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @amerika @dicey @gibbon
It's perfectly fine to add a bit of humanity to evil characters or a bit of controversy to positive ones, it indeed makes the story more alive and plausible, but JKR just ruined it in a very stupid way. She really doesn't seem to understand what she was trying to say. If she had anything to say at all 🤷♀️
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Dude Tales of Two cities was the most disappointing book I've ever read.
Whenever it went back to that fucking stupid love story with Lucie I wanted to kill myself.
Spoiler alert Carton dies being such a total cuck.
I hated when they talk about the brutality of the french civil war and then it goes 180 to talk about who Lucie wanted to fuck.
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@NonPlayableClown @amerika @Darbzilla @Sui @11112011 @apropos @lonelyowl @gibbon @dicey @Hyolobrika average whamen author.
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@amerika @apropos @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @Zerglingman @dicey @gibbon @lonelyowl if he was paid by the word, that's probably the reason
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Charles Dickens is a guy though.
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I like where this is going.
It's less about an author being exquisite in their story telling and word choice, but more so of just doing what pays the most.
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Who was it that took a dig at Wordsworth for being "too wordy?"
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@NonPlayableClown @Hyolobrika @dicey @gibbon @lonelyowl @apropos @amerika @11112011 @Sui @Darbzilla Check how much his wife was involved.
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This best describes "reading the classics"
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@Zerglingman @lonelyowl @11112011 @Darbzilla @Hyolobrika @NonPlayableClown @Sui @apropos @dicey @gibbon
> natural slave race
They even had Irish accents, IIRC.
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